I agree 1000% - perhaps have a special posting to make a champion "governor" or "mayor" of the city, which gives a certain xp per city level per turn...

Gouverning heroes need to gain gouvenor traits over time. Doesn't make sense to me that they can level their fighting skills by sitting at home or in some adventurer's guild.

This is a point that has received extensive coverage, before.  I can't say I disagree: it seems odd that governors would have to gain experience by doing something (combat) that takes them away from governing, the thing they're supposed to do.  But at this point, I'm not convinced governing champions are even worth the effort.  They seem to be nothing more than second-rate melee or magical champions, depending on how you develop them.

 yeah i think adventurer guilds should be either

- buildable in every city

- giving every city the bonus

- giving every governor champion a good bonus

also like everyone said governors should take very small xp  for just staying in town and some more xp for governing

This is how it works in Endless Space, and it works great.

However, I would change it so that the XP is gained for amount of production / research / gilder / population growth. Otherwise, you could game the system and swap champs in right before a project finishes. Maybe give XP based on the type of city. So a Conclave would give 1XP per turn for every 5 Research produced, for example.

Not sure what you are saying here. How does XP for the activity of the city increase micromanagement? It is a passive gain...you are already engaging in those activities (building, training, etc.). Now those actions generate XP for the Governor. Where is the micromanagement there? What is 'gamey' about that? What is counter intuitive about a Governor gaining XP for governing? It doesn't require a single extra click.

Please explain your opinions a bit more because I don't see what you are trying to get at, at all.

Agreed about the Adventure's Guild. Good idea, but needs balance.

@Goon.. Well I guess I see how this was missed.. but lets look at it this way: You have a town or a Conclave both with +50% gildar and +50% research while idle, but you also have a governor in that city for growth/unrest bonuses, that is not gaining experience because you are utilizing the idle bonus.

On the other side of things, lets say you don't have any idle bonuses, but have finished constructing all the buildings you need in that city. You now must train units that you do no need and delete them, or destroy buildings in your city and rebuild them in order for that stationed governor to gain experience.

Both of these are counterintuitive and require additional micromanagement. If we were to assume you were always building things anyway, why not just apply a passive xp bonus?

I honestly don't think it should scale with how big city they are standing in, but also think it should not be dependant on the city building items (since some city setup seems to favour idling, so putting a champ here would help idle research).

I think after 3 turns of standing in a city governing, a hero should have some "Governing" buff, that would give him 1 XP a turn until he left that city.
- This would make it worthwhile to make governors govern new smaller cities, due to the xp boost not scaling with how fast you build slaves or tiny fast buildings, and it would not scale with mega-cities producing a quintillion research, production and guildar, so for short as I said, make it worthwhile to govern new small outpost like cities. But also the 3 turn idle limit would help alleviate heroes just stopping in a city to gain the 2-3 xp because he need to recuperate movement, or needs that to level any-ways. (so he actually needs to be governing the city, if for gaining 3 xp it would still require him to be governor like for a couple of turns).

The numbers could be changed, of course, and I am still "willing" to see the other systems, I'd just prefer one which wasn't abusable by silly means.

Sincerely
~ Kongdej

But if the bonuses to the city aren't 'comparable' to going out and fighting, then no hero will be an administrator...unless there is nothing to fight.

There should be strategic decision involved in keeping him back or loosing him upon the ravaging world.

I do agree that an administrator should level slower than an adventurer. Just saying that the city bonus should somehow comparably close the gap between the two...

 EDIT: Just found out that building the adventurer's guild grants stationed heroes in that city +1 XP/rnd. So maybe have the administrator increase this bonus??

Ok, how about this

Random idea: Some injuries provide negative traits to champs stationed in a city, like insanity (+10% unrest to cities champ is stationed in)

Governor promotions: maybe have a flat +1xp per turn started and ended in the same city.

Governor promotions should give bonus xp:  maybe Merchant promotions give 1XP for every x gildar a city provides per turn, Administrators can 1 XP per thing built in a city, Loremasters gain XP for each 10 pts of research their city provides.

maybe promotions to further reduce unrest, promotion to raise militia in a conquered city no matter what, etc.

I too agree about this and in fact posted about it the beta thread of the Dev Journal when I noticed my Champ wasn't gaining XP while being in a city..

I think it would add a whole new dimension to the Champs, simply a risk/reward type gameplay, you want to be governors, than possibly suffer the reduce cost of combat abilities since they are in the city all day and all.

Perhaps scrap the whole hero type, and make their perks available through the quest system.  "You've rescued my family and me; thank you.  I have no skills to help slay the many monsters in your realm, but I am more than adept with numbers.  Assign me to one of your cities, and I guarantee that it will run more efficiently than it ever has, before," etc.

This.

Very interesting idea and would definately add 'rpg' element to the game. I like it.