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First...AR is becoming banned by host more and more often...
Second...TL is becoming more and more popular....
Thoughts?
my thought is that people are whining too much and banning and not searching hard enough for counters...
This is usually said by people who lack any real nerve to just admit that they are wrong. Everyone knows wail is OP along with 6 other things in this game. The balance is shot which is why I stopped playing.
I actually played a 1v1 recently where it seems TL is pretty competitive. Take half the map, exploit TL's better trade, double starbases (which leads to further trade income), and Novaliths to win the war of attrition. I was AR of course so it my opinion it was an irresitable force meets an immoveable object scenario. He would never beat my fully teched AR fleet with Lvl 6 titan, and while in that particular case I think my fleet advantage was high enough to eventually beat him, in theory with more support I would never be able to breach his defenses.
Obviously this doesn't translate to a 5v5, and perhaps the most likely result of this strategy is the other player rage quitting, but it's an interesting idea none the less.
What is wrong with Rebellion... everything that was added to Rebellion. Titans, Titan abilities, upgrades, jumping starbases, cannon spam, Titan as homeworld, corvettes, triggers (which don't even work), and the diplomacy (entrenchment imho is best).
Proof? 
Or is it just wishfull thinking of yours?
Seriously... when people ban AR you are basically down to TEC mirrors..... if you cant stand AR you cannot allow any Vasari, who are still OP.... yes even the Loyalist.
Phase Missiles + Orky + mobile feet = WIN - kill everything
Is it desperation are just lack of knowledge for choosing TEC Loyalist? Lets face reality.... very little they do better than TEC Rebels but many things that TEC Rebel do better than them.
I guess you havent saved a replay? Would be interesting to watch.
I cannot image TL doing better than TEC Rebels..... unless your enemy makes several fatal errors in a row.
1. Sorry.. better trade with TWIN Fortresses? Are you 
us? People complain that Induced Reverence takes ages to pay off..... building a starbase for trade is quite a bad idea... unless you can prolong your trade route. That is clearly not the case here, nor would a second starbase with trade module pay itself in any reasonable ammount of time. So TL have no better trade... quite the contrary actually. TR have better expansion and the same trade.
2. Novalith no doubt are annoying but they will rarely kill you. Not to mention that if he rushes them he wont have any money left to fortify his worlds..... so just sweep in and kill him.
If he manages to get both... well I am sorry... if you leave him alone for that long.... you would be dead against any other faction already.
He managed to get a Level 6 Ankylon? I assume you had at least a level 8 Eradica by then? If not you feeded him.... although it is beyond me how this can happen, considering the Ankylons average offensive value.
You can never balance the game with support from allies being an issue. With enough support I can bring out an Titan within 10 minutes of the game start. Which BTW is quite funny..... the look on the face of the poor guy being on the receiving end is probably awesome.... however it is not a good tactic, as all your team mates are bankrupt afterwards and while you can kill your closest foe the rest of your team dies... making it 4v1.....
Yes, annoying your enemies into quitting works remarkably well on same occasions.
Still, you say it yourself... you would have probably beaten him in the long term. And that is somewhat dissapointing. TL are supposed to be the premier defense faction.... on the same skill level they should be capable of holding the line for an infinite ammount of time.
None of the TEC Loyalists good techs come below 5 Labs.... before that they are just plain TEC without the early game power of the TEC Rebels.
Imho if he can hold the line with TEC Loyalist he can hold the line with TEC Rebels.... with the insignificant difference that TEC Rebels actually can launch an devastating counterattack.
They are things I've noticed....most large games I've played recently, AR was banned...
Most TEC players are still picking TR, but TL is by no means obscure anymore like it used to be...
wait wait wait wait ... arn't most of these things that players specifically asked for? One ship that can nom on a pile of other ships ... jumping stabases, corvettes ... etc etc? I'm confused. Just seems like a lot of people got what they asked for and now are complaining about how awesome it was in the good old days ... when they complained about a pile of other things.
State of Sins MP is best summed up currently with this illustrative photo:
^ Pretty much...
Really, I'm tempted to just quit...I was just about to get over the balance issues and Sins of Titan thing when the MDs, desyncs, and DCs came back in full...vast majority of my games on ICO are now plagued by these things, and it's kind of like: what's the point in playing if half the people in the game are replaced by AIs?
AR banning is just sour grapes from twitface spineless jellyfish pussies! Anyone who wants to ban AR is just asswipe twerps - is all they are!
-This has been a friendly troll
Probably the best way to make MP balanced is to ban every faction except TEC Loyalist. It could be known as the TEC Turtle Slapfight mod.
This is pretty much how I see it. Rebellion is a failure from my perspective. The game was in good shape as of the last Diplomacy patch.
Rebellion is great, I tried to play diplomacy some time ago(For mods ofc, since rebellion lacks any fun mods so far(Or working mods for that matter >.>(Looking at you patch 1.4)) and it just feels...Empty without thr corvettes and titans and extra techs, you may feel like rebellion is worse, but IMHO it's way better, this is the first sins that I have actually played and enjoyed for long times after eachother.(And third game or so, EVE online and supreme commander being the other 2) Hell, I've even done some occasional PVP with rebellion which is very unusual for me since I tend to play against AIs always.
And ofcourse there are some balance issues, but those were also there in entrenchment and diplomacy, exactly the same balance issues minus a few balance issues ofcourse, but it had it own problems and it wasn't all sunshine either there.
Darn Guess I will be playing alot more of world of tanks now 
. Anyone have that game? I would love to play with you if you do.
boy, you don't have to fan the dead the horse; (whispers) it's dead.
VL -too OP and banned
VR -too OP and banned
AR -with only 4 factions playable, they are now new OP and banned
AL -will be considered OP against TL and TR so it will be banned
TL and TR remain playable because they are balanced -poorly- against each other.
LOL, the MP community will force the game back to Beta.
VL is not banned, and AL is not even remotely considered OP...
Only VR is banned by virtually all hosts....AR are banned by several of the more frequent hosts, mainly for wail...
All 3 races are still playable...
So is the word that the game working now? From everything I've heard, the release was a total disaster, and it sounded like the company itself was struggling to stay afloat.
I am no expert on the issue, but my current understanding is this:
The most recent update has made the game "playable"...this is NOT the "all clear", but it is very close...furthermore, the devs for Sword of the Stars II have promised to continue working on updates...
Gamestop had a deal on Impulse that had SotS I (complete collection) and Sots II combined for $13...I couldn't turn away from that...you may want to see if the deal is still up....
FYI, SotS II requires Steam...I may have bought it from Impulse but I will have to install and play it through Steam...not a problem for me but that bothers some people so just a heads up...
SotS II looks like endless space. Is it a souped up better 4x game then endless space?
VL is becoming more and more popular because they are next in line in terms of titan power.
Their maw is virtually unstoppable and yes I know it is lvl 6 but if you keep your caps number down It will reach that level very quick even without feeding of on pirate base. With having SBs that can be planted they get another perk in term of op-nes
Not to mention that Vasari are an unstoppable juggernaut in late game even without titan...
This has largely been the case since the beginning of sins, some balancing aside.
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