For those playing in single-player, you can simply tweak the gameplay.constants file to turn off superweapons. Just look for this near the top of the file (use Notepad or Notepad++ NOT Word).

cannonsPerGravityWellRatio 1
cannonGravityWellRatioDenominator 4

We investigated an option to toggle Titans, but it was going to take a huge amount of work. If you don't want to play with Titans, your best bet is to use a mod.

Phase lanes are fixed internally and we're testing some AI adjustments.

Turchany, you're giving a whole lot of situationnal pros and cons to make the Vorastra sound better than the Ragnarov.

Sure, the Ragnarov can't fire backwards and the Vorastra has micro phase jumps, but unless you somehow manage to jump your fleet into the gravity well directly behind the Ragnarov, you can't avoid being hit. Its specialty is long-range bombardment and you will have to face it head-on and take the hits to the face until you close the distance and get behind it.

Knowing that, I'd much rather face the Maw than a 2400 damage Explosive Shot because at least I can try to limit the movement of the Vorastra with Iconus Guardians and have my ships fly away from it. 

This is nice and all, but unfortunately only true, if the targets are standing still. Which i doubt they are against semi-competent human opponent.

Otherwise quite a different scenario is very likely>

....

Trigger Maw.....and....

...nothing happens. As the frigate you targeted moved to the side and is not anymore directly in front of the titan, Vorastra tries to realign its position to get the target back into its "sights", instead of sucking in all the other ships around. If the target keeps moving, the titan will continue to realign ad absurdum. Eventually enemy ships start jumping away one by one, their clumped formation breaks and the window opportunity to get them all is gone. Now the ability might finally activate at last and youll get some kills, but its definitely not the slaughter it could be, if it activated the exact moment you pressed the button. 

Bottom line, its nowhere near as reliable as you make it sound it is, its not jump, activate and BURP 60 ships (pre 1.50 obviously) gone every single time. Not even against AI, so for sure not against humans.

Because it is better.. Try it online in a skilled team match and you will see which titan kills you before you even have the time to realise what happens

QFT.

I always faced skilled players use this ship, only 2-3 times a medium or lame player.

@PAT_22_ I never said Vorastra is a 100% I win button, I saw many times maw fail to execute, against AI I experienced it myself, but it can be learnt how to use it well and boom, enemy fleet is gone before he even selects his ships to move them away from each other, and the Vorastra frontal damage thingy is another one that makes it better in that case, add in desperation and the low-antimatter need of it's abilities... if Ragnarov is low on antimatter (faces dunovs or kortuls) it is a giant fragile cannon that will be destroyed very fast by Vasari bombers. Try doing the same against a Vorastra and tell me if you succeed as a non-Vasari player.

I say again, try it against skilled players and you will understand, I would prefer to go against the Ragnarov as I have a SLIGHT CHANCE TO KILL IT. The same is not true for the Vorastra, it is almost invincible, you will never catch it and destroy it due to it's unmatched mobility (even bombers are too slow for catching it) and the overall Vasari fleet superiority without risking to lose all your fleet for this titan only, not a good exchange.

I don't even know why we are arguing about maw when the real problem ability is desperation...

You said it yourself Turchany in your previous post, that you saw many times "Maw fail to execute". And that is really my point and all that matters - compared to likes of Dissever, Chastic Burst and other titan AoE abilities this one is nowhere near as reliable, thus its high lethality made sense. 

@Seleuicea> Maw was nerfed, so its Desperation problematic now   what is next? 

I told you before you lot wont be happy until Vasari are nerfed to hell. And here we are, despite changes to Desperation, Maw, jumping Orkies and buffs to TEC Loyals you still complained about no change to phase missiles and bombers - even before the patch was actually out, so you could at least try those new changes out and see, whether they are enough or not.

lol my full fleet wasn't annihilated at first try maybe next time. No, I was referring to MY GAMES against AI, and I am a poor Vasari player so I guess it was my fault my Vorastra wasn't aligned well before the jump and I was just messing around, I am sure skilled Vasari players are not such idiots like me when using maw and almost never fail. Well it won't be much of a problem with this extreme nerf.. 15 ships are not that much of a loss. And God save us from a level2 Maw...... Who the hell will kill that high level Vorastra, seriously?

This topic is a bit outdated with the 1.5 patch so maybe we can continue to write our thought about the beta Or complain about Desperation now

Noone asks Vasari to be nerfed ridiculously but it is not a question VASARI SHOULD BE AS GOOD AS OTHER RACES. Who thinks otherwise fails to understand the main goal of this game, 3 races with (almost) equal chances of winning. It was never true (Advent lol), Vasari was always inherently the best, now it is starting to get close to being balanced but still (very?) far from it.. Maybe the nerf of phase missiles would put them in a reasonable power position, but as Yarlen said there are no plans to change those ridiculous bombers.. I don't know, have they ever played against a human using vasari bombers? Maybe as Advent? And could they keep their capital ships or titan alive for more than some rounds of bomber phase missiles? I will never understand.. These changes are good (though Maw is ruined with this hard nerf..) but still I don't feel both Vasari factions to be as strong as the other 4, and it isn't an unimaginable thing to ask at least not the two strongest should be the Vasari.. Why not giving another race a chance to be almost the strongest faction? Sometimes I feel Vasari is a favourite of this game and they don't want it to be changed....

Oh and btw the hard nerf of wail is another exaggeration, made that useless too like the maw, so now AR may be even weaker than AL, have anyone tested it? what are your thought on this comparison of the Advent factions in this beta?

Turchany, Turchany... your reasoning here is mind-boggling.

So you failed using Maw properly - so OFC it had to be your fault and you´re being idiot - not a chance it was actually Maw being unreliable and not completely easy to use....not just to you but in general, as i am trying to allude here

And then i guess you watched your fleet being killed by Maw, or saw someone else´s fleet going down to succesful Maw attack - and now OFC your logic is, it has to be down to Maw being OP, not a chance of you being idiot this time by failing to scatter your forces and put them in motion to minimize your losses...

You know how it looks like? That you decided that Maw is/was OP and you will use every excuse to support that claim as its convenient to you.

I know you dont like Vas Loyalists, as its sooo easy to play them, but pretty please. Overcome your distaste for them and try play for just for them following month or 2. Use Maw as much as possible (its unreliability is the same as pre 1.50) against skilled players and then report back and we can have conversation again on this topic. 

No, you just got some of the nerfs you asked for and before even trying the game out to see how they pan out, you already complained they are not enough. Do you even wonder Yarlen refused to nerf phase missiles/bombers so far? Why should he? You did not even bother to play the game before doing judgments, thats hardly makes you trustworthy, when it comes to game balance. It only confirms your bias against Vasari.

@Urfullofshit> finally someone seeing it from my side as well...

I think Maw should strip planets...

Seems more logical that novaliths would just vaporize the planet into plasma.....how convenient that we have plasma storms in Sins....

As a competitive multiplayer, I realize that the Coronata NEEDS to be buffed. I'd suggest giving it larger increases in health and weapon damage per level, or reducing its cooldowns and antimatter costs.

In my opinion Goa, its a great titan, but just can't kill much without dying. The antimatter/cooldown should be implemented with the HP so as to not make it an Eradica mkII, but be able to utilize its powerful abilities more often.