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Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion v1.80 Change Log

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Yarlen
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Reply #26 November 7, 2013 2:20:21 PM
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[ Graphics ]

Updated ship and structure rendering (specifically the shadowed and non-shadowed shaders).
Adjusted TEC and Vasari missile speeds/turn rate to be smoother (doesn't affect damage).[/quote]

 

Nice!

 

Adjusted Anarchic Society planet bonus to no longer require exploration (Forbidden Worlds DLC).
Pirate Cutthroat base damage decreased from 60 to 45; weapon cooldown increased from 5.0 to 5.5.
Pirate Rogue base damage decreased from 40 to 35.
AntiMedium to Medium damage increased from 1.33333 to 1.5.

 

  1. Nice catch... you are bound to notice when you land...
  2. Good idea.
  3. Good idea.
  4. Very good idea! That should lessen the one combo spam.

 

TEC

Kol Gauss Blast ability updated: The Gauss Blast now bypasses Shields and directly damages the hull of the enemy ship. Antimatter cost reduced from 50/55/60/65 to 45/50/55/60; damage decreased from 400/670/940/1210 to 160/270/380/490.

 

Great idea: Now it is finally useful for something. Especially advent may find this a rather unpleasant surprise.

 

 

TEC Loyalists

Increased damage on Disruption Matrix (Titan) from 40/50/60/70 to 70/70/70/70.
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TEC Rebels

Increased Refined Emitters from 1 level of research to 2.
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  1. Excellent, a bit more reliable AOE damage can only benefit the Anklyon.
  2. Yes.... eradicate that alien scum^^

 

"All Titan Flak guns buffed"

 

More flak coverage is always good.

 

Advent

Corvettes should now be affected by Ruthlessness ability (Destra Crusader).
Psionic Scream (Discord Battleship) will now interrupt.
Radiance Battleship Energy Absorb ability updated: Armor bonus increased from 2.00/3.63/5.27/6.90 to 2.0/4.0/6.0/8.0.

Advent Rebels

Adjusted Reanimation research subject slightly to give the intended bonus.

 

  1. Excellent, that will make the Destras a bit more useful
  2. SHATTER. THEIR. WILL.
  3. Excellent, the Radiance always seemed a bit on the fragile side for a battleship.
  4. Cool

 

Vasari

Reworked Phasic Trap (Hangar Bays) in order to properly limit the number of affected strike craft.
Phasic Trap (Hangar Bays) will now affect 18/27 individual strike craft, increased from 10/20; duration updated from 45/60 to 45/45.


Disruptor Nanites (Phase Missile Turret) duration decreased from 600 to 60.
Vasari bomber strike craft damage decreased from 76.9 to 73.055.

Vasari Loyalists

Reworked The Maw ultimate ability on the Loyalist titan to properly limit the number of destroyed enemy frigates as intended.

 

  1. FANTASTIC. Vasari defense should be a bit less invincible after that.
  2. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LONG TIME NEEDED NERF! Now destroying the turrets may actually matter. And you can retreat your fleet without being at a severe disadvantage for 5 minutes.
  3. Thats a 5 % reduction in firepower..... most certainly a step into the right direction. Thank you very much!

 

Modding ]

Stellar Phenomena DLC: Added new Random Event system.
Stellar Phenomena DLC: Added AI logic for random spawned attackers.
Stellar Phenomena DLC: Added new buffInstantAction type (ChangePlayerIndexToNeutral).

[ Misc ]

String improvements for Starbase Mobilization description.
Fix for the game thinking a user doesn't own the Forbidden Worlds DLC in multiplayer when they do.
Removed Roiders Outpost planet bonus from appearing on Dead Asteroids.
Various string updates for changed abilities.

 

I can only imagine what modders can do with those. Awesome work!

 

Yes, great, less confused Vasari Rebel players.

Nice job

kk

[quote who="Blair Fraser" reply="4" id="3415133"]
Roiders is the correct term. There are a few subtle references to them throughout everything ever released for Sins of a Solar Empire. Expect to see the important role they play in the Sins Universe sometime in the future.

 

Hmmm..... ?

 

String updates are good.

 

This is an excellent patch, thank you developers.

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Reply #27 November 7, 2013 5:05:19 PM
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Every time I'm on a Pulsar map:

 

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Reply #28 November 7, 2013 5:31:14 PM
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Quoting YnrhedZombie,
reply 27
Every time I'm on a Pulsar map:

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Reply #29 November 7, 2013 5:36:02 PM
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Quoting GoaFan77,
reply 28


 

I mean the pulsating effect is reminiscent of that gif.

 

At least for me it is!

 

 

Edit: I was playing in a dark room with a large bright screen. It's not as rave-y as the Cheat gif, but it sort of fits!

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Reply #30 November 7, 2013 6:15:58 PM
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The gamma burst is even worse....damn thing nearly gave me a seizure....

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Reply #31 November 8, 2013 2:18:09 AM
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Quoting Seleuceia,
reply 11


Kol Gauss Blast ability updated: The Gauss Blast now bypasses Shields and directly damages the hull of the enemy ship. Antimatter cost reduced from 50/55/60/65 to 45/50/55/60; damage decreased from 400/670/940/1210 to 160/270/380/490.

This is clearly a buff when you recognize that by doing only hull damage, this ability bypasses shield mitigation...it basically is doing the same amount of damage against frigates and SBs, slightly more when against caps and titans...and it costs less AM...a small but appropriate buff...

 

It's a nerf. It does the same damage on frigates as maximum shield mitigation would. So yes it bypasses shield mitigation, but it does  exactly the same direct damage to the hull that it would have anyway once shields are down.

Default shield mitigation is 15%. So if you use it as a snipe, instead of doing 340 damage, it does 160. That's a nerf as well, especially as you consider that that damage will fix itself while you take down shields. When shields are taken down it does exactly the same damage that it did before.

The only time it's a buff is against capital ships - because their shield mitigation is greater than 60% by default, so you are actually doing more damage than you would otherwise. But capital ships are excessively vulnerable on less than 1000 hull, so I'm not convinced I would choose to spend the antimatter on this when I could save it for later.

 

At least it's cheaper. That's a good thing.

 

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Reply #32 November 8, 2013 6:52:50 AM
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GRG isn't really meant to be used on frigates, it is meant to be used on caps, SBs, and titans...if it is doing more damage than it was otherwise against 2 of those 3 things, I think it is safe to say that is a buff....when trying to kill caps and titans, you will be facing max mitigation for most of the battle anyway, so you don't really benefit from the "mininuke" effect that the original GRG had...

It is also a buff against Advent since Advent have shield regeneration (a fairly common ability) and in the late game have higher shield mitigation...

Is it huge? No...but hardly a nerf...

 

 

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Reply #33 November 8, 2013 12:49:49 PM
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Quoting StormingKiwi,
reply 31
Default shield mitigation is 15%. So if you use it as a snipe, instead of doing 340 damage, it does 160. That's a nerf as well, especially as you consider that that damage will fix itself while you take down shields. When shields are taken down it does exactly the same damage that it did before.

Yes, but it is actually much more common to fight max mitigation targets (heck, only your first shot hits 15% mitigation, a fact GRG used to rely on to do any good). When you compare max mitigation(57%) on frigates, yes this new version does slightly less damage, but they also reduced the antimatter cost which I'd argue evens it out in the long run but it only does damage to hull, which as Seleuceia said is a big advantage against the Advent or say the Kortul. If you add Advent shield mitigation tech bonuses into the mix I'm sure its a huge buff even against frigates.

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Reply #34 November 8, 2013 12:53:22 PM
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Quoting Seleuceia,
reply 32

GRG isn't really meant to be used on frigates, it is meant to be used on caps, SBs, and titans...if it is doing more damage than it was otherwise against 2 of those 3 things, I think it is safe to say that is a buff....when trying to kill caps and titans, you will be facing max mitigation for most of the battle anyway, so you don't really benefit from the "mininuke" effect that the original GRG had...

It is also a buff against Advent since Advent have shield regeneration (a fairly common ability) and in the late game have higher shield mitigation...

Is it huge? No...but hardly a nerf...

 

 

Yeah but when do capital ship battles rely on you surviving with less than 160 hull?

 

Well, it's not going to change the Kol so that it is a good choice for a starting capital ship. Plus it makes using the Kol more inflexible - using it on a target with maximum shields for your supporting frigates isn't possible.

 

I do like that you can use it more often. I'm just not sure that that outweighs the gains won by restricting it from being used against shields.

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Reply #35 November 8, 2013 1:12:12 PM
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Quoting StormingKiwi,
reply 34

Yeah but when do capital ship battles rely on you surviving with less than 160 hull?

 

I remember a certain PVP battle of mine where my advent colonization capital survived with 70 hull

 

And so far it seems like it is fine, I did not feel like my kol got any worse by the change.

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Reply #36 November 9, 2013 3:02:10 AM
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Quoting ezeltje299,
reply 35


Quoting StormingKiwi, reply 34
Yeah but when do capital ship battles rely on you surviving with less than 160 hull?


 

I remember a certain PVP battle of mine where my advent colonization capital survived with 70 hull

 

And so far it seems like it is fine, I did not feel like my kol got any worse by the change.

That's the point. Practically anything can snipe your capital at that point. If you're depending, great. If you're not...

 

 

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Reply #37 November 12, 2013 2:38:25 PM
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I still encounter the sticking gas giant effect on strike craft. It is annoying to lose 80 squadrons of bombers in 3 seconds because of this at a Volcanic planet..

I hope it gets fixed in the next patch.

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Reply #38 November 13, 2013 3:25:30 PM
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Quoting Turchany,
reply 37

I still encounter the sticking gas giant effect on strike craft. It is annoying to lose 80 squadrons of bombers in 3 seconds because of this at a Volcanic planet..

I hope it gets fixed in the next patch.

I wonder if this is another bug related to the entity files. According to AbilityUnstableGas, the gas giant explosion buff (BuffUnstableGasPreExplode) is applied directly to the strikecraft as a direct buff, sort of like Flak Burst. The buff is supposed to end on entering phase space (so the buff is removed when units are not in the grav well), but strikecraft cannot actually enter phase space - they have to dock with their parent first before the parent hyperspaces. Because of this, the buff is never actually removed from any specific strikecraft that were present in the gas giant well for any period of time, and will cause the explosive damage later on when they are eventually killed (which may be in a gravity well distant from the gas giant). In essence, the strikecraft become mobile suicide bombers, which is perhaps an amusing exploit since each will still do 80 damage to everything within 750m. Strikecraft that do not launch into the gas giant field (for example you never undock them, or you dock them while they are still being manufactured) do not have the buff applied and will not show this behaviour in the next gravity well.

I guess the fix for this is to add a new buff that is cast by the gas giant that applies a form of BuffUnstableGasPreExplode only to linked strikecraft, in much the same way as Concentration Aura works (BuffBattleMeditationParent). This buff would end on hyperspace and the strikecraft-specific pre-explode buff would end once the "LastSpawnerNoLongerHasBuff" -> [buff targeting strikecraft parents], thus preventing the strikecraft from exporting the buff when they leave.

Unfortunately, I can't verify this fix by doing it myself (my modding skills are poor) so hopefully someone else can confirm or refute the above.

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Reply #39 November 14, 2013 10:23:06 AM
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Good catch - I'll take a look at that for the next update.

OP updated.

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Reply #40 November 14, 2013 1:20:27 PM
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I just noticed a 10mb download, was that some small fix to whatever or just steam being weird?

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Reply #41 November 15, 2013 8:35:35 AM
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Quoting ezeltje299,
reply 40

I just noticed a 10mb download, was that some small fix to whatever or just steam being weird?

Version 1.80 Hotfix (11/14)

Fixed phase space destabilization buffs that weren't working on the Neutron Star.
Fixed incorrect buff finishConditions for Neutron and Black Holes.

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