Here's an experimental version if the Trade window. The planet trade list's been moved out of screen and the tech list uses the additional space dynamically.

Link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/cd3fuo8acdozgjr/TradeWnd.dxpack?dl=0

Simply place this file in the \Community Update\Screens\ folder. Presto, no more planet trading.

Hmmm... Well I suppose I could restore the players ability to trade with planets.

Applausi!!!   

I'll check it. For me it's a very good solution, and it also has a nice side effect: I always hated to get the complete list of my opponents planets available on the diplomacy screen.

Thanks

Guys I've had just one person respond to my latest alteration of the Trade window. Some more feed back would be appreciated.

I'm actually all for planet trading to be blocked entirely.  If uninhabited planets were tradeable that would be realistic but not when the planets are habitated.

I hate seeing the list of all opponenet planets as well.  I only brought up the war reparations so all angles had been considered.

Who in their right mind gives away planets?...not anyone trying to win...the millions of people on the planet certainly object!...the only circumstance that it even makes sense would be in a forced situation such as to end a war).    I'd be all for abolishing planet trading altogether for realistic AND game balance reasons.

If planet trading is left intact perhaps the price could be raised by a HUGE amount.  Even one barely habitable low population world should cost very dearly.  A high value fully populated world should be beyond reach.  Real appraisal of value is based on how much the alternative costs would be, such as how much it would cost in time, tech, and resources to take a world by force.  These alternative costs would never be cheap in GalCiv so why would a planet ever sell for a few beads?

So, given the choice:

a. No planet trading. Period.

b. Only the player can offer planets in trade

So.

1 vote for a.
3 option b.

We can't. Such a chance will have to be done by Stardock.

b

Thanks!

I already installed the experimental version of the trade window you posted few days ago, should I upgrade anyway?

I'm not entirely sure my opinion is welcome but regardless I'll still give my input

as far as I know it was quite usual to give(sell/buy/trade/exchange) away territory through history, marriage for example was such a condition where territory would change hands.... (of course not for peasants )

In my humble opinion you guyz are being influenced by the general fact that nowadays in our  western civilizations/ideology, we don't sell people & territory anymore.

About the planetary scale, does it really matter ?

if we were still a feudal society and if intergalactic, it wouldn't be far fetched to sell & buy planets as a whole (perhaps not EARTH and the like though)

imho, this problem about AI selling himself off is of 2 scales :

- 1 the AI that is 10x inferior to you : no issue here, if he's that far below you could probably win all other kinds of victories

- 2 the AI that is at your level, barely inferior or superior : here it's an issue

imho what would need to be done is :

A - weight down monetary propositions according to AI economy & treasury & needs : that is if the AI earns 1000bc a turn, then your offer of 2000bc is just 2 turns of income, not that incredible anymore (if the AI already has 20000bc surplus in treasury then it should again give less value to your offer) (if the AI is at war and will probably need to buy dozens of warships then your money is more welcome(military rating comparison)). EDIT: Also selling a planet which is just beginning could make sense if the AI is struggling economically or if the planet is in danger of being invaded/turned, otherwise not so much.

B - weight down any property propositions according to AI state & number of objects in galaxy : same as above but for planets, giving a planet when AI has only 1, is awesome for him, but doesn't increase his chances when another player has 100 planets under his control...

I know it probably can't be done through modding and that's unfortunate.

still such drastic options should be left optional in my humble opinion. that said I'm not even using that patch so who cares about my opinion

Is it worth designing ships with defences, or is it still the optimal strat to max the attack? I recall an average roll up was made for a defence score from 0 to Dmax. The score would then be deducted from the average attack roll. The problem obviously is that it is only a matter of time for a low defence roll to result in damage getting through. Slowly round by round the HP are exhausted and the ship is lost.

What improvements does the CU mod make, if any, to the area of ship/starbase combat?