turning off minors till some fixes to wacky constructor behavior

by turn 40ish every single resource in my entire region (and I am guessing entire map) had been constructor spammed by minors (v.0.83).  Many from ridiculous distances.  They also blocked many of my planets due to 'starbase too close'.  I was meeting minors from all across the galaxy.  I  finally turned off FOW using console around turn 50 to see what was going on.  I had starbases leeching my ZOC resources from as far away as minor's 70 hexes away.  No minor had scouted or even had tech to reach that distance?  I know I had 5x more techs then any minor and I could not come close to getting constructors that far off - not to mention, it is obviously cheating to know where to go plant on the resources.

As a side note, I got tired of one in particular, Kaxx, who had planted 3 bases right next to planets, so I attacked, urrrr.... "you can not declare war".... no telling why - I checked and had no treaties with Kaxx and not sure if minors have ideology immunity -  really irritating, spams starbases in my territory and I can't attack them

This has made me turn off minors completely as they are really a mess with the constructors. nothing like a blanket of starbases covering everything across the map. 

 

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Reply #1 Top

Currently the only way to effectively deal with minors is the Benevolent Ideology that makes starbases flip if they are in you ZOC...

went from no resources mined to lots and lots...

 

 

 

 

Reply #2 Top

I haven't had that much trouble with the minors grabbing every resource but they do get really resource happy, maybe let them expand a bit more and mine a bit less.

Reply #4 Top

  Minors are able to spam constructors, not sure how, I've seen them send 3 at a time, one after another.  They also don't seem to obey exploration and range limits, unless they are leapfrogging somehow.

  I wonder if all minors calculate vision and / or range from all other minors.

 

Reply #5 Top

blow up their star bases and then build your own!

Reply #6 Top

I've recently submitted a ticket for AI sending colony ships to unexplored planets. I think perhaps the same is happening for Constructors, and perhaps for all types of ship. I'll mention this in the ticket.

Reply #7 Top

Quoting ManiiNames, reply 5

blow up their star bases and then build your own!

Tried that with Kaxx, got "you can not attack this player".  no idea why, guess minors can get the huge attack immunity ideology perk?  pretty irritating. stuff in your ZOC should be attackable regardless

Reply #8 Top

I just buy the problem starbase, blow it up, and build my own.

I do agree, however, they are clearly exceeding the limitations of their tech.

My personal fave is everything under your nose getting stolen in an excessive+ map with tight clusters on.

They can't reach you, but somehow they're stealing your stuff.

My buddy mentioned the possibility of sending a fleet through a wormhole using a surveyor, but a bug is more likely.