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Need advice on cooling

September 23, 2016 2:39:18 PM from Galactic Civilizations III ForumsGalactic Civilizations III Forums

Greetings, 

I am wondering if anyone can direct me on how to build using proper ventilation. Typically in the past I get a full sized case and just use the fans the case comes with. In my recent build (4 yrs old), it has a side panel fan, a front panel one, and also another in back and one on top. I am using the 212 evo as cooler for my I5 (pretty sure that was the model #). I also have a GTX 970 in there. 

While reading Brads article on his build he mentioned in passing that some folks have too many fans or something to that effect. Is there a rule that you go by?

On my case the big side panel was blowing IN, the front panel was blowing IN while the back and top fans were pulling OUT>  

Recently I have been crashing and I really suspect the CPU is overheating. It is getting up to about 55 to 60 celsius. I have been crashing to desktop and blue screen while playing Star Wars the Old Republic  and once or twice while on GCIII. This post is not really asking for help on the crash although any suggestions or advice is most welcome.

I run Express VPN and sometimes Pandora works, sometimes it says 'You live in Singapore get lost" I wish it would be consistent on working. 


For reference here is my current system:

Asrock Z77 Extreme 6

I5 3570K (over clocked to 4.0)

Coolermaster 212 Evo

Coolermaster HAF 922 case. 

Samsung 850 Evo 512gig (both OS and games here)

EVGA Gforce GTX 970

2x8 gig GSKILL DDR3 2400

Win 7Pro which has been 'upgraded' to Win10 Pro (See Jaffo no issues!)

 

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redviper37
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Reply #1 September 23, 2016 3:16:41 PM
from Galactic Civilizations III ForumsGalactic Civilizations III Forums

 

You can use http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.htm to monitor your CPU temperature.

You can use http://www.evga.com/precisionxoc/ to adjust your video card fan speed.  Or MSI After Burner: https://gaming.msi.com/features/afterburner

On Asrock site you can find a small utility to overclock your computer.  If this works like Asus utility, you will likely be able to adjust your fan speed (something you can possibly do in your BIOS too).


Before doing anything expensive, I would start there.

 

A CPU overheating would likely result in a throttle down of the CPU.  At 55- 60 C, you are within normal operating range.

http://www.buildcomputers.net/cpu-temperature.html

 

The GPU overheating however could result in a crash.  If it's a stock card, it's likely there were no extra fans/heatsing and it may be the source of your problems. 

Try using one of the utilities above and increasing your fan speed a little and see if you still have problems. 

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Reply #2 September 23, 2016 5:30:03 PM
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Actually, you should run Prime95 for a few days and see if it crashes.  Your symptoms fit an unstable overclock, not an overheating processor.

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Reply #3 September 29, 2016 6:17:45 AM
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Default CPU temps hit 70 at normal with the default intel cooler etc etc. This is fine and is used by gazillions of people with no issues. Most CPU's will outlast their usefullness well before they actually die.

CPU's get into trouble when they hit the 90's. This only happens with the default cooler in both extreme conditions and extreme use, or if overclocked without better cooling options.

Your temps are fine.

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Reply #4 October 1, 2016 9:36:16 AM
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I'd be listening to psychoak on this one....

Overclocking should always be your first suspect.

Fan cooling can be entirely adequate provided they do not conflict...ie...all suck and no blow.

Cooling is only achieved by through-put of coolant...whether liquid or air.  Static [closed] circulation is essentially pointless.

Inlet venting and outlet venting are what's needed in a computer case....

 

And there's only one 'f' in 'Jafo' [it's an acronym]... Spell checker

 

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Reply #5 October 10, 2016 12:07:43 PM
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I suspect the video card not the cpu 60 Celsius is nothing, 140 F. Can you display a util for the card's performance and watch its temp? May have an unstable/marginal chip on the board.

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Reply #6 May 12, 2017 7:53:30 PM
from Galactic Civilizations III ForumsGalactic Civilizations III Forums

The bot scripters are getting smarter, but they really need to learn English...

 

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Reply #7 May 13, 2017 7:02:26 AM
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Quoting psychoak,
reply 6

The bot scripters are getting smarter, but they really need to learn English...

 

When they get smarter than you and I we'll hire them to catch themselves...

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Reply #8 May 20, 2017 9:15:58 AM
from Star Control ForumsStar Control Forums

I wanted to update you folks on what my issue was. One of my ram modules was bad and was the reason why I was crashing. After RMA'ing my ram and getting new sticks the issue I had went away. Months now after this post I have had zero issues. Thank you all for the info here. 

 

As posted prior I will have a chance to build a new rig and will likely go I9 and either a pair of gtx1070's or one gtx1080. 

 

I wanted to upgrade my monitor. I currently have a 27" 1080P from Asus which is great but was wondering if a larger 1440P would be an improvement? 

Do they make say 30" or 32" that are 1440P and would I notice a better picture compared to what I have now? 

 

 

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Reply #9 February 1, 2018 7:14:57 PM
from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums

There are 32inch 1440P displays, but seriously at that size, you should be looking at 4K. Apparently, BenQ 3200U is rather good all-round 4K 32inch display for relatively good price.

I considered it myself for quite some time, but eventually decided to go ultrawide.

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