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Unikraken
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Does anyone else worry that these updates are in prep for SoaSE 2?

November 16, 2016 9:44:08 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums

First of all, as a modder I just want to say that I really appreciate the work Ironclad is putting into improving gameplay performance and meeting modder requests with these post 1.82 updates that we thought we were never going to get.

However, with that said, it has long been assumed that with Ironclad's close relationship with Stardock that SoaSE 2 would be using the Nitrous engine funded in part by Stardock that we saw utilized in the Star Swarm demo.

These updates seem like an odd investment of manpower and time for a company that should be, hypothetically, full swing into trying to port SoaSE style gameplay into the Nitrous engine.

Does anyone else worry that these updates may be part of an endeavor to prepare the Iron engine for a another go at SoaSE? I'm hopeful this isn't the case because Nitrous appears to be an impressive engine ready for the next generation of strategy gaming - the kind of thing we'd need for SoaSE to be big again.

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upsurper
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Reply #1 November 17, 2016 3:47:55 PM
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I`m thinking they are porting over a lot of the logic into their 64 bit not announced iron engine v.3. Some logic that can be optimized is being found and implemented if possible into the legacy code we use in rebellion?

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Reply #2 November 17, 2016 4:17:23 PM
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I would be careful assuming any such things.  People assumed Sins 2 would follow the original, and Ironclad went and tried to kill themselves off spending several years developing a moba only to close it down shortly after release.

 

With no announcements, you guys are setting yourselves up for some big time disappointment here if they're just doing some adjustments to sell a few DLC before they try and scrape together enough funding for something new and unrelated.

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Reply #3 November 17, 2016 4:21:33 PM
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Quoting psychoak,
reply 2

I would be careful assuming any such things.  People assumed Sins 2 would follow the original, and Ironclad went and tried to kill themselves off spending several years developing a moba only to close it down shortly after release.

 

With no announcements, you guys are setting yourselves up for some big time disappointment here if they're just doing some adjustments to sell a few DLC before they try and scrape together enough funding for something new and unrelated.

I vaguely remember something saying that after Stellar Phenomena that the game would not get any more patches. So hope I will.

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Seleuceia
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Reply #4 November 17, 2016 6:23:50 PM
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But the game has gotten multiple patches and a DLC since Stellar Phenomena....

Best part is, these forums aren't even updated with the latest patch notes....that should tell you something about these forums and the "rumors" on them....

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GoaFan77
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Reply #5 November 17, 2016 7:00:52 PM
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Nitrious or Iron Engine 3, I don't care and I am extremely happy for any more updates they want to give us. 

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Reply #6 November 17, 2016 7:57:13 PM
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I would love for a sins 2.. 

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Reply #7 November 17, 2016 9:17:20 PM
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Pro sins 2

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Unikraken
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Reply #8 November 17, 2016 9:26:46 PM
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I am, of course, pro Sins 2. I just don't think updates to the Iron engine are worthwhile when their publisher has an engine ready to go with a ton of features a Sins 2 would desperately need.

 

I am in no way trying to disparage the Ironclad team or the work they do. I'm incredibly grateful for the updates they're giving us. I just worry about what it means strategically.

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Freyja_Bjorn
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Reply #9 November 17, 2016 10:30:15 PM
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They wouldn't use the current engine at all. Not with nitrous..

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Wintercross
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Reply #10 November 17, 2016 11:13:02 PM
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Nitrous makes sense, since all those beautiful turrets could then be animated.
Plus strike craft would be able to be more dynamic and we could have the ability for flak to intercept missiles and such.... it just makes sense. 

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Reply #11 November 18, 2016 1:46:08 PM
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You guys are way over thinking this, but I do appreciate the energy and interest Some changes in my personal life gave me a few extra hours of free time per week so I decided to spend some of those poking around in the old code base just for the fun of it.  Outside of that, I'm plenty busy with other projects.

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Nuttygamer
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Reply #12 November 18, 2016 3:50:59 PM
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I am more than happy to pay for Sins 2. I love Sins and still play although irregularly and mostly single player. Obviously there are massive engine optimization and improvement (I still want a ton of AI movement updates instead of doing boxes but do things like done in Supreme Commander 2) but I can't wait for update in the minor tweaks areas as well.

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Reply #13 November 18, 2016 5:39:39 PM
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Quoting Blair Fraser,
reply 11

You guys are way over thinking this, but I do appreciate the energy and interest Some changes in my personal life gave me a few extra hours of free time per week so I decided to spend some of those poking around in the old code base just for the fun of it.  Outside of that, I'm plenty busy with other projects.

 

Is one of those other projects you are busy with Sins 2? 

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Reply #14 November 18, 2016 6:05:42 PM
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Thanks for responding Blair! You're the best!

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