@starkers why would you want to have windows8.1 instead of windows10? What are the benefits?
You can still upgrade your windows8.1 to windows10 all you have to do is call the support line
Its still free. Both pretty much look the same.
I aleady own 3 copies of Windows 8.1, and having paid full price for two of them, I fully intend to use what I paid for.
As for still being able to 'upgrade' to Win 10 for free, even IF I wanted to, which I don't, that's not the information I have been given. When a nephew tried to do it via the 'nag app' from the systray, it told him the offer no longer was available and to contact Microsoft, which we did. After waiting 30 minutes for a 'real' person, a representative then repeated what the systray notice said: "That offer is no longer available.", and proceeded to try sell him a version for $268.... which is $300+ in AUD$. He doesn't have that sort of money so I convinced him to stick with 8.1 for as long as he could.
Besides, I don't like Windows 10 for several reasons.
No one at all serious can call what they've pulled since releasing 10 anything but underhanded. They hid nagware, advertisements, and even full blown operating system upgrades as critical security updates.
Exactly! MS betrayed the trust of millions of users and continues to behave in dishonest and underhanded ways... like using Scheduled Maintenance to forecefully download and install updates that users previously rejected and hid from future Windows Updates.
And then there's the advertisements on the default 10 start menu. Microsoft calls them 'suggestions', but truth is, in anybody's language they're blatant advertisements. I see enough advertising being thrust in my face just about everywhere I look, so the last thing I want is to see it thrust upon me by my operating system. Yeah, they can be disabled/hidden, but that's not the point. Simply put,I should NOT have to do that
With 8.1 none of that even matters, it's still supported, period. Any bullshit they pull in opposition to that doesn't get a pass because it's easier to update one version. If they want to get away with that crap, they should stop selling us operating systems that come with 10-15 year support cycles and tell us up front that they plan on bricking it when they release a new one. People that bought 8 are owed those updates, they paid for them, not the version on the disk.
Yes, Windows 8.1 is still supported, and what MS is doing here, by withholding security and other upates to 7th gen CPU owners, is blatant blackmail to try force unwilling 8.1 users to move to Win 10. .. I won't say upgrade because, to me, it's a downgrade in many respects.
With regard to MS releasing an OS with 10 - 15 year support cycle, then "bricking it" early, While I agree that it's patently wrong, I believe that is even more wrong that Windows 8.1 is still on sale. Last I looked it was still available in the Microsoft Store, but it is still up for sale on umpteen online stores and 'bricks 'n mortar' retailers. If MS wants users to move to Win 10, then why haven't those copies/licenses been recalled?
For mine, Microsoft is the least trustworthy, most underhanded tech corporation there is. Apple used to have that mantle, but MS has surpassed Apple in all departments of distrust and deserves NO customer respect whatsoever.
The leading banker families (who own money machine Federal Reserve) don't believe in any freedom whatsoever. Microsoft's decision regarding Ryzen is just the latest in a long string of decisions showing that the company doesn't care about freedom. On the contrary they are actively blocking updates from reaching supported versions of their OSes.
This just touches on the outer skin of it all. Bankers have always been the slimiest mongrels on Earth, and they are certainly using the technology to consolidate their positions, but there are other 'agencies' [both government and corporate] seeking power and information to further their ambitions and aspirations. What this means for the average Joe and his family, I can't say for sure, but history tells us that the accumulation of wealth, power and knowledge by the priveleged/upper echelon doesn't bode well for the every day bloke and his....
Frogboy wrote an interesting piece that asks this very question: Economic Singularity: The Gods and the Useless.
A few people gave their thought on this, myself included, but this move by MS to restrict updates to Win 10, an OS that's known for it's ability to control and collect data, contributes greatly to the haves imposing even greater power and controls over the have-nots...the ability to condition consumers toward 'desired' products and trends through targeted advertising. Sadly, though, many consumers [the poor and disadvantaged] will no longer exist because the haves will see them as liabilities [read guaranteed incomes. employed or not] rather than consumers. Yup, the almighty dollar will become far more important than human life... though so many of the haves and 'priveleged' already think this anyway.
Anyway, this has gotten far from the OT, as it often does, but I still hope that AMD tells MS to go fech itself and provides support to Win 7 and 8.1. Even better, Ubuntu and Linux Mint forge ahead in leaps and bounds to truly rival Windows 10 and capture majority market share.
I won't hold my breath on either count, but hey, dreams are free... until MS finds a way to control those, too.