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Start11 2.1 Beta Feedback Thread

August 9, 2024 10:42:00 AM from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

With the Start11 v2.1 beta release today, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.  

Obtaining Object Desktop Insider Builds

Object Desktop Manager

Object Desktop members can get beta and Insider builds from within Object Desktop Manager with 'Enable Object Desktop Insider builds' enabled:

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Stardock Download Page

Or via their download page in the ‘Object Desktop Insider’ section

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Obtaining Beta Releases

Stardock.com

If a beta was released, Object Desktop Members would see it in the ‘Object Desktop’ section.

Individual purchases would see it on their registration of the product under their download page.

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Steam

  • Right-click the Product in Steam

  • Properties

  • Betas

  • Select the beta branch at the top right (there is no password)

Example

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Reporting an issue

Please include the following for anything found:

  • Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)

  • Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen

  • Screenshots and videos are very helpful.  Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive service (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube), with a shared link included in your post.  Images can be copied and pasted directly into a post.

  • If there are specific apps that the app does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions.  If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.

Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Start11 v2 a better product.

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Reply #1 August 9, 2024 12:20:52 PM
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Start11 2.1 Changelog (Released 08/20/2024)

08/20/2024

Version

UI: 2.1

Start11Config: 2.1.0.0

Platforms

Stardock and Steam

Changes

  • Resolved issue with right-clicking on secondary monitor taskbar when a window on top causing issues with primary monitor taskbar

  • Improved handling of Windows Security setting shortcuts for search

  • Resolved issue with icons on right-click menus sometimes being missing on shell extensions when shown as a Start11 right-click menu

  • Adjusted spacing for the weather widget when on the right with enhanced taskbar

  • ARM support is now in all versions (trial, paid, and ODNT)

  • Resolved issue with right-click menus when the taskbar is at the top of the screen - requires enhanced taskbar enabled

  • Resolved issue with missing widgets button when left/center taskbar buttons mode with the enhanced taskbar on Win11

  • Added feature: holding down the SHIFT key when clicking on a popup menu will open that in Explorer when clicked rather than opening the submenu

  • Resolved issue with always combine mode using the wrong icon for the run window and control panel when using enhanced taskbar on Win11

  • Resolved issue with the position of the search field on the taskbar when using rounded taskbar options sometimes

  • Resolved the issue with the position of the search field on the taskbar when using a wider start button

  • Resolved issue with pin installed app menu not always working when on slower machines (largely ARM)

  • Resolved a crash issue with menus when changing icons for a shortcut on slower (ARM) machines

  • Resolved issue with icons being smaller than intended when using the resize menu for anything other than small when using Win11/Win App / Win Pro / Win Launcher styles at higher DPI scales

  • Enabled ARM build to load up custom tile images

  • Resolved issue with some app icons in non-combine mode on the taskbar having darker edges than intended

  • Enabled universal folder for Win7 all programs in menu mode

  • Resolved issue with control panel menu popup having some broken links for third-party control panel icons

  • Resolved a small clipping issue on the mouseover highlight of items at the top of the Win11 style expanding folder on the start menu

  • Resolved issue with default to all programs list in Win7/Modern styles going back to non-all programs list when doing a search and pressing escape once

  • Resolved fullscreen Win10 style menu cutting the top of the menu off if autohide mode in Start11 is enabled

  • Resolved fullscreen Win10 style menu having extra transparent background in error on ARM setups

  • Enabled all programs menu on Win7/Modern styles when using Win10 style list to support the Universal Applications folder option

  • Enabled some right-click options on Win10 style all programs list when using Win7/Modern style

  • Enhanced Start11 control panel search to include a significant number of missing legacy control panel items

  • Resolved the issue with the Microsoft Teams icon when pinned on the enhanced taskbar being smaller than expected

  • Resolved enter not opening shutdown/sign out menus when using some menu styles

  • Resolved issue with the keyboard not selecting items on the shutdown menu using Win7/Modern styles when opened via the keyboard

  • Adding links to folders now stores paths in a more portable manner

  • Resolved changing icons for apps in combined taskbar mode not always being respected

  • Added support for Networx taskbar network traffic graph with enhanced taskbar enabled

  • Resolved network/sound taskbar popup not being positioned correctly on Win11 taskbars when at the top of the screen on newer insider builds

  • Resolved excess CPU usage on Win11 occasionally

  • Resolved recent files showing in the documents list

  • Stopped documents/pictures/videos showing in Start11 search for files

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Reply #2 August 9, 2024 12:21:14 PM
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Known issues

While we appreciate all feedback, please remember that we offer no official support for beta \ preview \ developer channel versions of Windows. If you report issues while in any of those early release channels, you should not expect them to be addressed unless it still exists in a retail version of Windows.

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Reply #4 August 9, 2024 7:12:51 PM
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This new feature is awesome. Thanks

  • Added feature: holding down the SHIFT key when clicking on a popup menu will open that in Explorer when clicked rather than opening the submenu

EDIT: This works on the Start Menu "Open folder as a menu"  and on the taskbar pinned folder menus.

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Reply #5 August 10, 2024 7:45:27 AM
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Widget icon was and is still missing when the taskbar is set centered.

Windows version is beta 22635.4010

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Reply #6 August 10, 2024 8:56:37 AM
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reply 5

Widget icon was and is still missing when the taskbar is set centered.

Windows version is beta 22635.4010

I can confirm this on 22635.4010. It works on "Left Aligned" and "Left Start Button and Center Aligned Taskbar Buttons," however the widget is cut off on the left side. I tried different display scales with no change.

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Reply #7 August 11, 2024 4:14:29 PM
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Hallo,

I noticed a bug.

There is a kind of mirroring of the last app in the taskbar.

But only if you scaled up the UI of your system.

 

The bug:

 

Here we go:

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Reply #8 August 11, 2024 6:23:17 PM
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Quoting sintemal,
reply 7

Hallo,

I noticed a bug.

There is a kind of mirroring of the last app in the taskbar.

But only if you scaled up the UI of your system.

 

The bug:



 

Here we go:


Does this happen if you do not use custom scaling but instead use one of the default scaling factors like 125%, 150, 175, 200 etc?

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Reply #9 August 11, 2024 10:33:59 PM
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Hello,

I found a bug.

After intalling Start 11 v2.09 beta, I clicked "Clear Information" in Settings backup tab. After doing that, some search options that were missing were fixed, however I found out, things like Core Isolation, are now showing (I had reported a bug on previous versions where this settings was completely gone). However, I found out Core Isolation is not correctly written (it should be Core Isolation and it says CoreIsolation, all together) also noticed that when clicking Core Isolation, it redirects you to Windows Security home tab instead of redirecting to the Core Isolation tab like the one in the Windows 11 default search bar does.

 

Here I will upload 2 videos.

 

Showing Core Isolation bugged shortcut on Start11 Search Bar

 

Comparing Start11 Bugged Core Isolation Shortcut with Windows 11 Default Search Bar Shortcut which works

 

Thank you,

Looking forward to get this resolved.

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Reply #10 August 12, 2024 3:11:06 AM
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Hello,

I found a bug.

I have installed Start 11 v2.09 to use the upper side located "task bar", then,"task menu window" is correctly shown by right click ,

only if the soft (for example firefox) is not running.

But, when the soft is running, "task menu window" is shown on the bottom of the screen by right click.

Thank you,

I am looking forward to get bug fix.

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Reply #11 August 12, 2024 6:42:10 AM
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Quoting TRON_NEZU,
reply 10

Hello,

I found a bug.

I have installed Start 11 v2.09 to use the upper side located "task bar", then,"task menu window" is correctly shown by right click ,

only if the soft (for example firefox) is not running.

But, when the soft is running, "task menu window" is shown on the bottom of the screen by right click.

Thank you,

I am looking forward to get bug fix.

Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. But, I can not reproduce your issue on my system. Need more details on your settings.

Need to know.

  1. Windows full version and OS Build number.
  2. Start Taskbar enhance turn on or off?
  3. Taskbar Autohide on or off?
  4. Any other taskbar related setting.

Thank you.
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Reply #12 August 12, 2024 8:39:42 AM
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Hello

Thank you for your reply.

I inform you the information that mentioned below.

 

1.Windows full version and OS Build number.

 ->Windows 11 Pro  23H2  OS Build:22631.3958

2.Start Taskbar enhance turn on or off?

 ->on (Please see below. Is it correct?)


3.Taskbar Autohide on or off?

->on

4.Any other taskbar related setting.

-> No any other setting changed, I think.

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Reply #13 August 12, 2024 8:52:42 AM
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Quoting TRON_NEZU,
reply 12

Hello

Thank you for your reply.

I inform you the information that mentioned below.

 

1.Windows full version and OS Build number.

 ->Windows 11 Pro  23H2  OS Build:22631.3958

2.Start Taskbar enhance turn on or off?

 ->on (Please see below. Is it correct?)




3.Taskbar Autohide on or off?

->on



4.Any other taskbar related setting.

-> No any other setting changed, I think.

 

Hello

The information that I inform you in reply #12.

I change the information about 4.

4.Any other taskbar related setting.

 

-> No any other setting changed, I think.

->Taskbar location : left side.

->Hide the start button on the secondary display : On

 

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Reply #14 August 12, 2024 8:55:25 AM
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Quoting TRON_NEZU,
reply 12

Hello

Thank you for your reply.

I inform you the information that mentioned below.

1.Windows full version and OS Build number.

 ->Windows 11 Pro  23H2  OS Build:22631.3958

2.Start Taskbar enhance turn on or off?

 ->on (Please see below. Is it correct?)

3.Taskbar Autohide on or off?

->on



4.Any other taskbar related setting.

-> No any other setting changed, I think.

Please try turn off Windows auto hide and turn on Start11 auto hide as seen below. Do that and retest your issue.

Thank you,

Basj,
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Reply #15 August 12, 2024 10:33:48 AM
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Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 8


Quoting sintemal,
reply 7

Hallo,

I noticed a bug.

There is a kind of mirroring of the last app in the taskbar.

But only if you scaled up the UI of your system.

 

The bug:



 

Here we go:



Does this happen if you do not use custom scaling but instead use one of the default scaling factors like 125%, 150, 175, 200 etc?

 

It only happens with custom scaling.

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Reply #16 August 12, 2024 10:51:16 AM
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reply 15

It only happens with custom scaling.

Microsoft is very clear that these custom scaling settings can cause text and apps to become unreadable.

"You shouldn't change these settings unless you need to—it can cause text and apps to become
unreadable. All your displays will be set to the custom scaling size you enter and it can be difficult to go
back to your original settings."

You should try to use a standard scaling factor.

Google Translation.

Microsoft macht ausdrücklich darauf aufmerksam, dass diese benutzerdefinierten Skalierungseinstellungen dazu führen können, dass Texte und Apps unlesbar werden.

"Sie sollten diese Einstellungen nur ändern, wenn es unbedingt nötig ist. Dadurch können Texte und Apps unlesbar werden. Alle Ihre Displays werden auf die von Ihnen eingegebene benutzerdefinierte Skalierungsgröße eingestellt und es kann schwierig sein, zu Ihren ursprünglichen Einstellungen zurückzukehren."

Sie sollten versuchen, einen Standardskalierungsfaktor zu verwenden.

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Reply #17 August 12, 2024 12:22:39 PM
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Quoting pelaird,
reply 16


Quoting sintemal,
reply 15

It only happens with custom scaling.



Microsoft is very clear that these custom scaling settings can cause text and apps to become unreadable.

"You shouldn't change these settings unless you need to—it can cause text and apps to become
unreadable. All your displays will be set to the custom scaling size you enter and it can be difficult to go
back to your original settings."

You should try to use a standard scaling factor.

Google Translation.

Microsoft macht ausdrücklich darauf aufmerksam, dass diese benutzerdefinierten Skalierungseinstellungen dazu führen können, dass Texte und Apps unlesbar werden.

"Sie sollten diese Einstellungen nur ändern, wenn es unbedingt nötig ist. Dadurch können Texte und Apps unlesbar werden. Alle Ihre Displays werden auf die von Ihnen eingegebene benutzerdefinierte Skalierungsgröße eingestellt und es kann schwierig sein, zu Ihren ursprünglichen Einstellungen zurückzukehren."

Sie sollten versuchen, einen Standardskalierungsfaktor zu verwenden.


 

Why, oh why Microsoft.....🙄

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Reply #18 August 12, 2024 9:26:01 PM
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Quoting basj,
reply 14


Quoting TRON_NEZU,
reply 12

Hello

Thank you for your reply.

I inform you the information that mentioned below.

1.Windows full version and OS Build number.

 ->Windows 11 Pro  23H2  OS Build:22631.3958

2.Start Taskbar enhance turn on or off?

 ->on (Please see below. Is it correct?)

3.Taskbar Autohide on or off?

->on



4.Any other taskbar related setting.

-> No any other setting changed, I think.



Please try turn off Windows auto hide and turn on Start11 auto hide as seen below. Do that and retest your issue.



Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

Hello

According to your advice, I have try to set "turn off Windows auto hide and turn on Start11 auto hide".

But, nothing is changed.

Regards,

 

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Reply #19 August 12, 2024 10:38:40 PM
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Quoting TRON_NEZU,
reply 18


Quoting basj,
reply 14






Quoting TRON_NEZU,

reply 12


Hello

Thank you for your reply.

I inform you the information that mentioned below.

1.Windows full version and OS Build number.

 ->Windows 11 Pro  23H2  OS Build:22631.3958

2.Start Taskbar enhance turn on or off?

 ->on (Please see below. Is it correct?)

3.Taskbar Autohide on or off?

->on



4.Any other taskbar related setting.

-> No any other setting changed, I think.



Please try turn off Windows auto hide and turn on Start11 auto hide as seen below. Do that and retest your issue.



Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant



Hello

According to your advice, I have try to set "turn off Windows auto hide and turn on Start11 auto hide".

But, nothing is changed.

Regards,

 




Hello

Using with this setting for a while, the task window is now displayed in the correct position.

I will keep using this setting, and I'll wait and see.

Thank you.

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Reply #20 August 12, 2024 10:51:59 PM
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Quoting TRON_NEZU,
reply 18

Hello
According to your advice, I have try to set "turn off Windows auto hide and turn on Start11 auto hide".
But, nothing is changed.
Regards,

Than something else is causing the issue on your system. Do you have any other 3rd party software installed that changed how your taskbar/Startpanel/Windows Explorer work?

Also, please try this, uninstall Start11, reboot immediately, re-download latest version from account download page, install it, reboot immediately again after the installation done. Retest and report back.

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Reply #21 August 12, 2024 10:54:28 PM
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Quoting TRON_NEZU,
reply 19

Hello

Using with this setting for a while, the task window is now displayed in the correct position.

I will keep using this setting, and I'll wait and see.

Thank you.

Great, glad to hear that.

Thank you,

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Reply #22 August 12, 2024 11:36:02 PM
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Quoting basj,
reply 21


Quoting TRON_NEZU,
reply 19

Hello

Using with this setting for a while, the task window is now displayed in the correct position.

I will keep using this setting, and I'll wait and see.

Thank you.



Great, glad to hear that.

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

Hello, basj

I have found the pattern that "Task window" shows on the bottom position.

After Windows11 is restarted, when first time a soft runs (for example firefox ) with a single window,"

Task window" shows on the bottom position.

Then, one more windows runs (same soft), "Task window" shows on the top side position correctly.

Please give me advice to fix this bug.
 

Regards,

 

 

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Reply #23 August 12, 2024 11:40:26 PM
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Quoting TRON_NEZU,
reply 22

Please give me advice to fix this bug.

Regards,

This, have you tried it?

Quoting basj,
reply 20

Than something else is causing the issue on your system. Do you have any other 3rd party software installed that changed how your taskbar/Startpanel/Windows Explorer work?

Also, please try this, uninstall Start11, reboot immediately, re-download latest version from account download page, install it, reboot immediately again after the installation done. Retest and report back.

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Quoting basj,
reply 23


Quoting TRON_NEZU,
reply 22

Please give me advice to fix this bug.

Regards,



This, have you tried it?


Quoting basj,
reply 20

Than something else is causing the issue on your system. Do you have any other 3rd party software installed that changed how your taskbar/Startpanel/Windows Explorer work?

Also, please try this, uninstall Start11, reboot immediately, re-download latest version from account download page, install it, reboot immediately again after the installation done. Retest and report back.

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant


Sorry.

I had not noticed the "reply 20" , so I have tried that procedure.

But, unfortunately, nothing was changed.

The situation is same as "reply 22".

Please give me any solution.

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Reply #25 August 13, 2024 9:09:49 PM
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reply 24

Sorry.

I had not noticed the "reply 20" , so I have tried that procedure.

But, unfortunately, nothing was changed.

The situation is same as "reply 22".

Please give me any solution.

Hello again,

Moving forward, since your issue is unique to your system. It best to start your own thread on this issue so we can continue there instead taking up space on general feedback thread and confuse everyone else.

Thank you,

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