question of art

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/me will not touch this .



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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so I guess it's the way it looks.

For me the Art is in the talent and style used as a true craftsman forms different materials into something new.

From the first thought to the end product (idol) there is a mix of things which lend to what most consider to be art.

That is the art from my perspective, but at the same time the idol (product of the art) being added to the whole or subtracting from it is what I feel most people think of when they say Art.

For what it is worth I have read the posts about a 4 year old with a crayon could do better on some library submissions. Well, a guy in NYC drew Stick People everywhere and ended up with a Art show which drew people from around the world, he also became a millionaire in the end...

imagine that...

It is (ofcourse) the synergy of the two that matters. What is it with people and binary thinking?

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

"Beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder"

lol that must be right, my beer-holder think's I'm beautiful (VvvvvV)

I don't think I'm going to touch this...

"Beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder"

Till he wakes up and thinks "Where am I, and who is that while looking down and seeing painted pink toe nails and then, OM MY GOD!when looking to the lower left of the bed " I hope she has hairy feet and just happen to not paint her thick yellow toe nails, erk and didn't shave her legs for a year!"

Now, catching persons face in a picture forever holding it in that moment of time would be Art

might also be worth some serious money

I don't think I'm going to touch this...

: dum, dum, da dum, ba dum ba dum, can't touch this, dum dum dum dum, ba dum ba da dum, can't touch this :

yeah, probably was best, for me also, I'm a dufus when it comes to this because I am the dufus who feels there is at least one point of perfection in everything...

really really

they don't call it 'not shaving'......it's called payback

I don't drink beer

lol footsie

aw go ahead mp, say whatcha wanna. I don't mind

this is kool 2 me, ppl sharing thoughts without gettin upset, could this b a new form of art, lol, l8rz.

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I compare it with a photograph
It should say something when you look of it. It must get you thinking, it like when you look at 100 photographs in a hurry, you will stop at certain ones. Those ones jump out, and makes a statement.
When you will see a photograph of an older person, maybe half nekkid and the dude is ugly. Some people will say, that picture sucks. But there is where the photographer comes is, If he works with the ligting/contrast and stuff like that, Those picture will come out very nice too.
So for everybody its different to experience a good of bad photograph, i dont even think there are bad photographs, only unexperienced person...

Something is 'good' to you because it appeals to your specific criteria or taste.

For something to be generally acclaimed to be 'good' it satisfies/appeals to a wider sampling of opinion....at which stage it 'may' be influenced through a desire to fit in with public opinion or worse still, be a parroting of critics' choice.  [others say it's good so it MUST be good].

Skins are not strictly 'art' as they can and do include specifics of 'design' which in itself is not 'expression' as such.

Architecture and Industrial Design in particular are artforms but transcend classical Art's 'appearance and emotional representation or even story-telling' and require an inherent function response.

Skinning is more closely related to Architecture than it is to Fine Art.

Dunno if that helps you any....

can you translate it in dutch?

Skins are not strictly 'art' as they can and do include specifics of 'design' which in itself is not 'expression' as such.

Very well said...

Skinning is more closely related to Architecture than it is to Fine Art.

*cough* Bullshit *cough* :

Mindless....I'm an Architect and a skinner.....go heave.

Skins are not strictly 'art' as they can and do include specifics of 'design' which in itself is not 'expression' as such.

I see your point however I think it's up to the skin author to express themselves within the constraints of the design.

Skinning is more closely related to Architecture than it is to Fine Art.

I see it that way....whereas making a wall is more a matter of art....WBSkins have a function they need to perform, much like designing a building or a car.

/me wonders when he will move beyond the Trabant stage of skinning
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What is "Art?" Beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder. My 4 year old boy makes art. But the rest of you would probably call it scribbling. My keyboard, for that matter, could be considered "Art." Especially to a person who has never seen one or to the person who might have spent months or even years designing it. For something to be "Art" there has to be an appreciation for it from a person. Appreciation and Art are 2 different things, but without appreciation, nothing is art. It's just another "Thing" until someone appreciates it.

At the same time, something could be appreciated but not really be art. I "Appreciate" my keyboard but I wouldn't call it "Art."

Therefore, "Art" is more than how it was made and how it looks. Many more factors come in to play. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...but art is something else all together.

I think I confused myself.

Case in point...Most of us would not call this https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=8&SkinID=7207 art.

But we do appreciate the message it presents.

At the same time, there are people who do appreciate it and would call it art. They appreciate it for a completly different reason.

Art is a complicated mix of many more things than how it was made and what it looks like. We could debate what those things are for 100 years and never get to the heart of it.

Heck...some would say that "Art" is a label someone puts on something just to make money.

Mindless....I'm an Architect and a skinner.....go heave.

I just don't think it's more one than the other. I think skinning is as much art as design.

just don't think it's more one than the other. I think skinning is as much art as design.

If that's your opinion....say so....just fix your 'cough' while you're at it.

art vs means of making it....the appearance is always important, but the means of getting there is another story. Take for example "presets", yeah....the models and shapes you found and use do make good art......THANK THE PERSON WHO MADE IT!! But yeah, a lot of work for "someone" still went into it, thank those people. Bryce blobs take you 43.2 seconds to make? Sure, but how long did it take the programmer to make that possible. Who puts more work into it...the guy at Wal-Mart that mixes the paint, or the guy that MADLY FLINGS IT ONTO A CANVAS!?

Art, noun: Creative or imaginative activity, especially the expressive arrangement of elements within a medium.

Go figure