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[quote who="Daiwa" reply="138" id="2343870"] On the site, it had familiar names suck as Ann Coulter, Dick Morris, and Bill O'Reilly. Seems like it's pretty much a Jewish GOP supporting site. Wikipedia agrees with me. Two things wrong with the above - 1) none of that has anything to do with the substance of his arguments, and 2) Wikipedia. (And I'm sure the 'suck as' was just a typo)[/quote] yeah, whoops, that's a typo. I put that in for context. You could

[quote who="Melchiz" reply="137" id="2343854"] Pre-med students aren't doctors. Many people dislike pre-med students, so yes, if you think that doctors are all secretly pre-med students, mentally, you would probably hate doctors. A small minority of these overachievers are accepted into medical school, and then complete medical school and training. As for this discussion of money, I noted that money is a factor, but not the root motivation. If you had th

[quote who="Melchiz" reply="132" id="2343827"]Please, PLEASE go up to a physician and say that. To even suggest that the majority of doctors are in it primarily for money is absolute foolishness. There are many jobs that are less demanding and far more rewarding in terms of pay. As someone who works in medicine and has spent his entire life around dedicated healthcare workers, I am offended and disgusted.[/quote] At my school in San Francisco, and a lot of people want to become d

[quote who="Melchiz" reply="127" id="2343800"]Have you ever read the discussion/talk page for a controversial Wikipedia article?[/quote] lol...completely ignoring the research...and your comment isn't related to health care... Regardless, I'd rather be in a system where the doctor became a doctor not because he would be rich, but because he wants to help people. A stronger bond with my doctor would make me healthier in the long run. After all, doctors ex

[quote who="Melchiz" reply="125" id="2343686"]Don't pretend that Wikipedia is a reliable source for controversial issues, such as politics.[/quote] With regard to the first part (about the site), wikipedia actually quoted the founder. Yeah, pretty "unreliable" About the second issue (medicare bill), let's go "trusty" news sources that say the same thing: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/29/60minutes/main2625305.shtml (says drug companies influenced the bill) http

[quote who="Daiwa" reply="96" id="2342494"]Thomas Sowell has done a nice job, much more eloquently and succinctly than I could, of getting at the essence of the 'death panel' issue and the ethos of UHC in a two-part column - #1 here and #2 here.[/quote]So I read these and the wiki article on the author. He seems like a respectable enough of a figure. On the site, it had familiar names suck as Ann Coulter, Dick Morris, and Bill O'Reilly. Seems like it's pretty much a Jewish

[quote who="Daiwa" reply="75" id="2342053"] What universal health care has proven is that preventitive care is a MUCH cheaper way to keep the poor alive. That's why other countries are able to have a healthier populace while spending less money. There are so many things wrong with the inherent (and erroneous) assumptions in both these statements. My fingers being sore from trying to explain elsewhere, I'll just suggest you pursue some further reading.[/quote] time for

[quote who="Lugh" reply="64" id="2341674"]There is no such thing as FREE care. Its costs money to someone. Whether thats the taxpayer or insurance or the individual is a matter of some debate. You don't have a right to FREE MEDICAL CARE... you have the right to pursue happiness and if being healthy is part of that mandate then YOU better get yourself some. [/quote] Right now, we do provide "health care" for all poor. How? Emergency rooms. Who

[quote who="Moosetek13" reply="60" id="2341653"] How is the Government inefficient? And your Government being "broke" at the moment is not the issue here, after all the tax payers will pay for it. "Government being "broke" at the moment is not the issue here, after all the tax payers will pay for it" With how much of our earnings, and to how many generations? Government being broke IS!!!!!! the issue! Get a CLUE!!!![/quote] If you're referrin

I personally would like to see a government run system in the United States for several reasons: 1) It is the government's job to provide health care. In article I, section 8 of the constitution, it states that congress has the power to provide for the "general welfare " (welfare as defined as "health, happiness, or prosperity; well-being" when the constitution was written). The fact of the matter is that the federal government already does do this, but to a les