[quote who="tingkagol" reply="361" id="3709737"] This is the Stardock strategy that I cannot get on board with especially during a time when all parties are still waiting for the final court ruling on F&P's IP case. It makes me really sad and sick to my stomach. Again, I really wish Stardock didn't do that. [/quote] They did try to avoid it, but Reich and his fellow Copyright Fascist backed Stardock into a corner.
[quote who="Frogboy" reply="350" id="3709725"] I no longer have any interest in their universe. The [b]aliens related to SC1,2,3 will appear in the new Star Control games[/b] but they won't have anything to do with the universe they establish. If I had the rights I'd just hand it to the UQM community to do with as they please using the SCO engine and give it out for free. You couldn't pay me to touch their universe now.[/quote] Hell why didn't y
[quote who="Talonious" reply="345" id="3709709"] But on the general principle of copyright protection that "if you don't use it, then you lose it"? That I'd have to regretfully and respectfully disagree on...if for no other reason than if that were the case then random no talent hacks - and not a respected company like Stardock - out there could put out Star Control games by the dozens and pollute
[quote who="Talonious" reply="336" id="3709681"] What people should be allowed to do and what they are legally allowed to do is not necessarily the same thing. [/quote] I agree, but it is important to remember that politics, and thus laws, are downstream of culture. We won't change anything by shutti
[quote who="Frogboy" reply="329" id="3709623"]Just to be clear, Star Control: Origins does not contain any potentially copyrightable material from SC 1,2 or even 3. We took great pains to reboot it all in the hopes that someday, Paul and Fred would return to continue their story. We just didn't expect them to show up 5 days before our big day and represent it as the TRUE sequel to Star Control while simultaneously attacking us online. [/quote] They are not going
I stand by my point that Reich and his pal will most likely never finish the game, it was a PR move so they wouldn't look like dicks for acting like Copyright Facists, nothing more. So while I agree that SCO will probably be good, it's not even necessary to point that out. The fact is, it will be FINISHED, and Reich's game most likely will NOT be.
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Right, and so it's kinda important that the player doesn't have to micromanage it too much. The most annoying thing about GC2 is that it required too much micro-management. It can't be avoided entirely, but reducing the need for it can make GC3 more enjoyable.
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[quote who="AdamMG" reply="8" id="3709566"] It seems to me that the planet limit is a soft limit, not a hard one. You can have N planets without governmental unrest, any more than that and your citizens will complain that they are not being represented. [/quote] Right, but moral management is part of the game.
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I personally think the colony limit is too low, people who play on bigger maps will quickly be overwhelmed by such a low limit. Though, this can perhaps be mitigated by having colony limits be determined by map size (similar to research multipliers in GC2, but much more pronounced). Also, there needs to be a tool to macro manage this, so that it doesn't become an annoyance for people who want to solely or exclusively use a specific government type or two.
[quote who="eride" reply="319" id="3709403"] I don't understand why the fanboys are taking Fred and Paul's side. Fred and Paul arguably aren't even capable of providing a new Star Control game based on their body of work over the last two decades (exclusively developing mediocre money grab games). Fred and Paul have done nothing to prove a real intent to make a new game (they could have found a way to make a new Star Control if they wanted to, fanboys need to stop giving them unlimited b
[quote who="Kavik_Kang" reply="313" id="3709358"] No, it's a real thing. Star Trek, Star Wars, and Babylon 5 have a "formula" that runs through them. They share a set of qualities that other sci-fi stories don't have. It's not "semantics", it is a tangible thing. One of those qualities, to give just one example, is "scope and scale". Those stories aren't about "a fictional world" or "the humans". They are about "a fictional galaxy". That is just
[quote who="Kavik_Kang" reply="309" id="3709269"]Good, I'm glad you understand that. Now take your own advice. I was not "switching to semantics" and I imagine almost everyone who read it, unlike you, completely understood what I was saying. Nice try at a propaganda answer that completely avoids what is being said, though, it's just not a game that works with me. [/quote] http://www.dictionary.com/brows
[quote who="Kavik_Kang" reply="299" id="3709159"] What "creative works"? If you are just demanding to write your own Star Trek or Star Wars stories, for example, that is not really "creative", is it? Blah blah blah [/quote] Okay you know what? I didn't read the rest. Wanna guess why? Because you are clearly switching to semantics so you can seem like you're not really in the wrong here. BEING wrong is ok, being unwilling to see it
[quote who="Kavik_Kang" reply="297" id="3709156"] I am no lawyer, but "fair use" allows for reasonable reference/use of things from other people's stories and art. Parody is granted particularly wide latitude. That's why I can call the "hell" of my own story the "Eternally Unstuck Reflection of the Dark Side of Armageddon" (a dual Babylon 5 & Star Wars reference). Reference and parody is allowed, artists don't have the kind of total ownership and control that you ar
[quote who="Kavik_Kang" reply="295" id="3709134"] Essentially a patent is on invention. copyright is for art. With a patent you get a limited time of exclusivity for your invention, but then it becomes public domain for the benefit of all mankind. Invention and art are very different things, the benefit to humanity of invention is tangible. While invention should become public domain, the creators should have a period of exclusivity in making money on their invention.&n
[quote who="Pyro411" reply="291" id="3709110"] Life Plus 70 The lifetime of copyrights is no different if the creator records a song, shoots a film, or throws a pot: The copyright is enforceable for the life of the creator plus another 70 years. If an artist paints a picture at 40, and lives until 90, then 120 [50 + 70] years will elapse before copyright expiration . You can register your own copyright or yo
[quote who="Timmaigh" reply="285" id="3709067"] Saying what? Something involving Third Reich?[e digicons]:D[/e] On more serious note, i am with Talonius here, if there is any chance to drop all the lawsuits and find common ground, it should be taken, instead of dragging this to bitter end. [/quote] Yep, and once the you realize [b]Reich[/b] is being a copyright [b]fascist[/b] working for a [b]3rd[/b] party company, the parallel is hard to un
[quote who="Larsenex" reply="277" id="3709028"] This made me realize something. In the legal update thread it was mentioned that Folks here side with SD (naturally) while the majority of Star Control fans side with F&P which is outside this forum. Think about that. [/quote] This is unfortunately correct. Though I am the rare breed of SC Fan that likes developers on MERIT only. I suppose being a Mega Man
It sounds as if Reich may be the 3rd person in his family with that name...................just saying...............
Will the Slylandro be appearing in different universes? Will they have escaped their Gas Giant planet in some?
[quote who="Larsenex" reply="23" id="3703768"] Well the Issue is a currency used to build population which in turn rewards the player or ai with production. I hate to ask but how did we do population and production in GC II? Can this mechanic be simplified yet still offer the player another lever to pull to get results in game? [/quote] Max Pop = Food x 1 Billion basically. If it still works this way in GC3, then changing how food i
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They don't invade planets right? Throw all remaining ships at the Drengin and turtle until you are technologically overpowered.
If you were playing as the Drengin, I'd say there's a possibility that Stardock got super clever and added a "convert conquered population into production fuel" mechanic. On that note, if that's NOT what was happening, maybe they SHOULD add it :D
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[quote who="implodinggoat" reply="29" id="3702670"] I'd like more random events; but I had a more radical solution in mind. I think that ideology should be tied into influence generation as culture is tied into civic perks in Civ 5. So you get Neutral ideology points from your influence generation buildings that you can spend on any branch and then those are supplemented by the benevolent, pragmatic or malevolent points that you get from colonization events and the
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[quote who="Werewindlefr" reply="9" id="3702443"] Which could be intersting, as long as great care was taken to keep large ships powerful as well. Then you could have small ships to overload defenses and large ships to munch on the HPs. This could be even more interesting with some adjustements to battle behavior AI, especially target priorities. [/quote] Kind of does already, they can take bigger chunks out and clearly can do that much more dama
