Again, we will not pass certification with that, so it's a no go.  There are literally tens of thousands of dollars on the line here. We're not going to screw around with this gang, so quit asking.   

Complain to Microsoft if you want the system changed. I've heard some people say you can setup Windows to do some kind of funky HD redirect to get around it, but that's on the user, not us.

 

You could mail them yourself and ask for it

I dont see a problem with IC and ST wanna earn some more cash, with the "Games for Windows" option.
It actualy helps alot, as said above, if the game gets the logo it will be in the GFW area. So if its easier to spot means more ppl. More ppl means more talk. More talk means more ppl.. ect ect.

Personally i dont care where its put, as long as i can find it

"Yes, all the little hidden traps and secrets are getting dug up" . . like the fact that MS is a attempt by aliens to control the populous . . or that the they have brain washed people into buying a OS that does not work and used there phasers on anyone that tried to stop them.

The fact is NO new OS sells well. People (or companies) do not want to upgrade for a host of reasons . . (older systems, legacy programs, compatibility, cost, homogenous data centers or work sites, laziness, fear, and propaganda)
Heck SUN micro has a majority of its customers stubbornly not wanting to move from S8 or the more adventurous S9 . . and S10 has been out for some time . .and S11 is a long way to being complete.
OSX was a flop at first . .buggy and incompatible to the extreme. The Various Linuxes are all aver the place . .sum are getting bloated and slow and are having bigger security problems as they are getting more main stream.
Security, Virus and bug problems . . are NOT MS only problems . . . though propaganda says otherwise (apple and Linux sales will say they have no security or Virus problems and only minor bugs . . . Laughable and a out right LIE. Also MS is getting bashed for FINALLY taking security more seriously (not something a normal user understands and often gets annoyed at)
The problem with MS is the aggressive business techniques and the fact it has gotten caught more then once. Other companies are in the same anti trust boat (though not publicized 1/8 as much) Rambus, Intel, apple, Google, and IBM . . . also there are other companies that are using a few of MS’s tactics now to great effect but have not been . . . noticed yet (sadly my CO may be one of them)
The sad fact is that other OS’s are starting to feel what they have wrought going after MS . . they are having problems bundling even basic apps with there OS’s, Security is harder then they think when the focus of hackers changes to them, the realization the basic user is clueless and feature hungry and that hand holding them requires lots of code and bloat . . and the advanced user is fickle and complains about catering to the majority of the basic users and makeing "there" OS slow and dumb. Etc etc . . .

Reducing any of this to a black and white they are “evil” or bad and the others are Good . . is short sighted and very naive. . .

Nice personal dig, Well I am glad to pass your test . . . since I am typing this while testing a dynamic fault reporting and repair system . 2 screens 2 keyboards it is not a easy thing, and I am sorry I do not meet your typing requirements . .

I will be sure to "fix" my bad attitude
People seem to like using the word "arrogance" nowadays in a personal rebuttal attack when loosing a argument with someone that may have a higher academic knowledge on a subject . . I find that amusing . . . - you may have made in into the book.


Funny, that I can only respond to what you have typed and you have supported you lack of knowledge on some these points and self proclaimed laziness. I made no assumptions beyond that.


Need I know more? Your actions are telling I do not need to know personal info. This is clearly a novice way of troubleshooting (no offence, novice <> moron, as you seem to think). I help people with these problems . . just as a mechanic helps me with my car problems. The mechanic is the expert in that case and I am the novice. You seem to find it a offence
Also the average Joe does not know these things (computer wise) Having supported 100s of users at various pass jobs . . I have found there supreme ignorance on the working of a computer amazing and a fact. (this does not mean they are dumb, that means they do not have computer skills) There are entire web sites dedicated to clueless computer users. Critical thinking - well, yes my personal opinion is a great majority of people do not use much Critical thinking in there every day lives . . . I belong to an organization that promotes it.


I may have given too much “attitude” but then look at yours and other posts . . people here are spouting off on things they do not fully understand, misunderstand or have been misrepresented to them. . . this is not attitude? Can’t I be annoyed at people perpetuating falsehoods and confusion?
PS . . 30% performance reduction in vista? Wow . . what dribble . .more like ~.08% to .34% with the release candidate (possibly you missed the decimal place) . .the worse was ~1-2% and mainly with programs with compatibility problems. Just after release some programs/games really took a hit (mainly poor drivers). But now it is hardly an issue. . RC1 will see a massive improvement (as it always does)

If you have a problem with the file location . . . well that is valid . . .I agree that on XP that is a problem. But the rest of the bluster here over MS is mostly uninformed regurgitation of poorly written and venomous news and blogs. MS is a competitor, Windows is a competing OS to ours . . We strip it down and dissect it . .We know how it works, the good and bad points . . we also respect MS and there products (though the public face is to the contrary - it is all propaganda! It is all business)

PS, you may want to look at other operating systems closer . . . many force all user files and settings to a common directory and keep the program packages separate . . . Windows was lazy on this in the past, they let what ever the programmers wanted rule . . it made for conflicting “standards”, bad programming, security problems, and confusion . . . now they are attempting to fix it (a bit ham handedly, but that IS there way) and people freak . . . . it would be funny if not so sad . . .

Let's see. I go to the control panel, click on add/remove program, find the problem program from the list, click "Change/remove program".... And nothing happens.

I go to the problem's directory, look for an Uninst or unwise, or setup... Nada. Nothing there.


And no, I do not just delete program folders unless I have no other option. I do in fact know how to properly uninstall a program, and then I know how to do it the hard way. I prefer to do it the proper way, but sometimes this damn computer does not let me.

"My biggest issue with the new standard is that this stuff (in XP at least) is pointed to a hidden directory. That's just not cool, as most users won't be able to find the directory if they need to. If we can do some kind of redirect (with the user's consent/action) then we will."

Yes, for XP (like I already said) that is a problem . .

could a simple shortcut in your startmenu be a simple fix? that should not be too bad.

there are too many hidden files in windows as is... the only files I'm ok with hiding are a few in the root C: drive that are required for booting. Otherwise, I get to hide things... other people do not. It's my damn computer. In the same way no bought V chiped Intel processors or would buy cars that shut off if the police pressed a button... I'm not cool with third parties deciding what happens with my system. I bought an MS product. I am a customer... not their bitch.



By the way... I'm playing Halo 2 on my XP machine... I bought it and then downloaded the crack that lets you play it on XP.

Suck it MS. Thus far the only real reason to upgrade to Vista shattered.

in my experience, people that don't know much about computers are LESS likely to delete important files... unless they want to break the computer.


Keep the core OS in Windows directory... delete anything out side of that minus a few hidden files in the root directory and the computer should still boot and operate correctly. There is no need to go about hiding application files. Especially when most of them should be in the application installation directory to begin with...

Having Worked in a various MIS jobs . . . I find that to be not the case . . while there are some that are paranoid to touch/delete anything . . there are a greater % of people that "think" they know what they are doing and F the system up good thinking all the time they "know" what they are doing . . (so user rights and hidden files tend to stop most IF set up correctly) Another good reason to put all USER files in one place and only allow them to touch those files . . if they go mucking about in the OS or program dirs they will mess them up 9 time out of 10.


not really because of the religious baggage those words have, you evoke a "religious sense" just by using those terms . . also angel has different meanings in each of the 3 religions that use them and no meanings for the religions that do not . .
Also Evil mean effectively what ever is "bad" for THAT religion and that could be quite different from what you assume it means and is in NO way universal. People get stuck thinking religious = there religion. and at this time this tends to mean the current monopoly of the 3 main monotheistic religions . . that is very short sited and one of t he main causes for misunderstanding and strife between religions throughout the ages. Religion in general is quite selfish with there own point of view.

They can be used, as you say, "non-religiously" but that definition and connotation is religious and will taken as a religious statement.
Also defining angel as "good" is not even that valid . . since one form is a "messenger" with no "good" or "bad" association - just a minor job. another form are effectively minor deities "considered good" by association with the chief benefactor God that does "good" things. To even very "bad" fallen angels and the like, still angels but gone bad. Also quite a few religions do not have any analog to angels (unless you want to see them as quasi-deities - which the monotheists do not)

And Evil is NOT universal and never has been (and that goes for morally also). One religions evil can be another’s good.
See the current synonyms - Sin, wickedness, vice . . These also have religious subtext. Morally/immorality unfortunately now has a religious overtone because most current religious people think morally IS entirely religion based and can come only from "there" religion . . which is a mistake since it is societal element that can have religious aspects or equally none. (all documented quite well in history)

Look close at human history and cultural anthropology. You will find some very interesting things . . what is taboo for a society does not mean it is for another and the same thing could be evil or not depending on what religious perspective you look at regardless of the societies laws and taboos . . It just can not be assumed to be the same!

Quite an interesting subject but quite off topic . . . .sorry

how was this issue resolved?... I must have missed that...

so how much space do they consume in hidden folders?