Fighters/bombers should be purely autonomous, and non selectable.

Agreed on colony frig

Agreed on shipyrds as well, cept 1, or 2 extra clicks if the yard is using rally points can fix that. but less clicking is a good thing.

Also Colony Frigates need to have the default stance "hold position". Else they will try to attack enemy ships, leading to their certain destruction. Or they need to get their weapon removed (4 dps isn't useful anyway).



Same goes for construction ships. Construction ships and fighters/bombers also shouldn't be shown in the planetary pip when zoomed out.



Also when you set your waypoint to a fleet it actually doesn't set it on the fleet but on the first ship in a fleet. If that ship gets destroyed the waypoint also gets removed, which isn't that good.

Further ships which get added per waypoint to a fleet should inherit the stance settings from the fleet, removing the need to change stances in fleets periodically.

i like only being able to select my fighters by using the empire tree or by control grouping them... if only they didnt go away after death...

I heartily agree!

Don't care about point 3 or 1. Sometimes the only ship I've got in the sector is a colony ship, and if it isn't a combat ship there's no selecting it that way.

I kinda agree with point 2. Fighters and bombers shouldn't be drag selected unless they are the only thing in the region selected. If they're autonomous, the craft must be ordered to focus fire upon the host's target--unless it is a hanger. This way we can tell a carrier to attack something specific and still get our fighters to obey. But I want to still be able to select my fighters and bombers.

That's part of the point Annatar11, either make them selectable so that the person who is the strategist can control them easily enough, or automate them with ways to control them. Only carrier capitals have multiple squadrons though, so you could just have two ... one for fighters and one for bombers.

Or you could just use the Ctrl group keys.

Maybe they can do the Autocad thing: Bandbox from left to right and you get everything; bandbox from right to left and you only get combat units that are frigs and higher. Of course one of the controls options would be to reverse this or disable it entirely.



I like it!



Ewwww!! No way!


My biggest micro-gripe is that Shift + # assigns the selected ships to that control groups. This makes it difficult (read slow) to select multiple groups or some random ships and a control group. I like to be able to type: "1 Shift + 2" to select both groups 1 and 2. In Sins those keystrokes would lead to group 1's ships being added to group 2 - which is not what I wanted at all.

I realize that many people will like the way it is now because it is quite handy for adding ships to established control groups (so disabling this feature should be optional, not the rule) but when you don't want to do this it forces you to hold Shift and CLICK on the control group to get the desired effect. Clicking is slow, particularly since you have to scroll to the top of the empire tree to get to the groups.

Maybe I'm just used to doing it the hard way in Homeworld: Select ships to add, hold Shift and press the number for the control group you want to add them to, hold Ctrl and press the number for the control group again to reassign the group to include the newly added ships. But at least with this system if I want groups 1, 3, and 9 all I have to do is press 1, hold Shift and press 3 and 9. Done. In Sins I would have to select group 1, hold shift, scroll to the top of the empire tree, click 3 (still holding shift), scroll BACK to the top of the empire tree (selecting groups or individual ships within a group often makes the empire tree snap down to the node that they are at), and click 9 (while still holding Shift).


If disabling this is already an option and I just missed it then feel free to bludgeon me with your blunt instrument of choice