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July 2, 2004 10:09:13 AM from JoeUser ForumsJoeUser Forums


... your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to create yourself the closest to your perfect partner you can based on this selection of qualities. but there is a catch ... the qualities below are exclusionary, and in choosing one, you automatically eliminate its opposite.


would they be ...



1/ spontaneous or stable ?


2/ passive or aggressive ?


3/ monogamous or experimental ?


4/ material or spiritual ?


5/ talented or driven ?



... rank your answers in importance from 1-5, and please include your reasons if you can.



this weeks' friday five owes it's probing subject matter to the fabulous little_whip. go visit her here: Link
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Reply #1 July 2, 2004 10:27:01 AM
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Okay, first of all, let me say that this is HARD!

would they be ...

1/ spontaneous or stable ?

Stable


2/ passive or aggressive ?

Passive-aggressive.......okay, moderately aggressive


3/ monogamous or experimental ?

Monogamous


4/ material or spiritual ?

Spiritual


5/ talented or driven ?

Talented



... rank your answers in importance from 1-5, and please include your reasons if you can.

Monogamous
Stable
Spiritual
Talented
Aggressive

The reasons are a little difficult to explain, as they are mostly personal and have a lot to do with the failed relationships I've had in the past, and the things that attracted me to my darling husband.
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Reply #2 July 2, 2004 10:31:18 AM
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1 Spontaneous. I myself have at least been told I'm a very stable person... (and used as a crutch far too often lol) So spontaneous would add some spice to life for me

2 Monogamous. I've been cheated on by women all too many times... If I'm with someone I dedicate myself to them wholly and expect the same back.

3. Spiritual. I like material possessions.. but they aren't what makes life worth living... I'd much rather live in squaller with a truly great woman than be rich with someone I can't stand.

4. Aggressive. Since I myself am a very passive person.... opposites can fuel a lot of fun hehe

5. Talented. If they are talented I'd could provide the drive to do what is needed to further their life and talent
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Reply #3 July 2, 2004 10:37:20 AM
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1/ spontaneous or stable ? stable
2/ passive or aggressive ? passive-agressive (No, wait! I HATE that!)
3/ monogamous or experimental ? monogamous
4/ material or spiritual ? spirtual
5/ talented or driven ? talented

4, 1, 3, 5, 2
It sounds as if my idea of a perfect mate is sort of boring, but I figure that those are the things I need to balance out my "personality".

If I were answering these questions for me, they would be:

1/ spontaneous or stable ? spontaneous
2/ passive or aggressive ? passive, unless I'm very passionate about something
3/ monogamous or experimental ? monogamous
4/ material or spiritual ? spirtual
5/ talented or driven ? driven
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Reply #4 July 2, 2004 10:39:09 AM
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yay i love these!! I need to get my sad ass of line though, but not quite yet....

1)Spontaneous, i'm easily bored! and I think its more romantic anyway.

2)passive, aggressive is just scary. I quite like moody people though, as long as they're not violent.

3)hmm...biologically etc humans aren't meant to be monogamous are they?But in an ideal world, monogamous please..

4)spiritual.

5) talented. I can love someone solely based on their mind and their talents...and what's drive without talent behind it? (avril lavigne!!yuk)

Love Dyl xxx
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Reply #5 July 2, 2004 10:53:24 AM
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1/ spontaneous or stable ? Spontaneous


2/ passive or aggressive ? Hmm...tough..passive JUST!


3/ monogamous or experimental ? Monogamous


4/ material or spiritual ? spiritual


5/ talented or driven ? talented

Order of importance....

Monogamous
Spontaneous
spiritual
talented
Passive

This was a tough one this week Mig, hmm ok, Why this order, i want someone I can totally trust, that loves me and me alone. Honesty is the most important thing to me. I get bored real easy, I need someone who will keep me on my toes, and make things exciting! Spiritual, I need someone I can connect with, that understands me, that gets me, that is priceless. Talented, hehe, erm...I find it so attractive when someone just has a natural talent that they don't have to work at, driven it to formal, and trying to hard, I'm a laid back kind of lass! Passive, I'm still unsure about this one, but aggressive can be scary, I like the middle ground really, someone not to aggressive, but who won't just role over for me, and be like a pet!
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Reply #6 July 2, 2004 11:00:10 AM
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1/ spontaneous or stable ?
Stable. I lived a spontaneous life in my youth, and while it was exciting it left me a bit empty. Stability allows you to form a foundation on which many enjoyable life experiences can be based.

2/ passive or aggressive ?
Aggressive. I like assertive women. I like it when someone has an opinion and is not affraid to share it, even when (maybe especially when) it disagrees with mine.

3/ monogamous or experimental ?
Monogamous. I am, by nature, absolutely monogamous. When I'm dating a girl, there are no other girls in the world for me. There are just other people that may or may not be female. I want the same from my mate.

4/ material or spiritual ?
Material. I'm a mechanist.

5/ talented or driven ?
Talented. Talented is so much more entertaining. I personally lack great ambition. I want to be successful in my career to the point that I have few financial worries, and I have achieved that. But in the end, I believe very strongly that I work to live, I do not live to work.

 Order of importance: 3, 2, 5, 1, 4
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Reply #7 July 2, 2004 11:16:18 AM
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awww, you guys are so funky hehe, but it's 2am and i'm too sleepy to reply ... see you all in the morning ... and thanks !!!!


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Reply #8 July 2, 2004 4:26:06 PM
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1/ spontaneous or stable ?

Spontaneous


2/ passive or aggressive ?

Aggressive


3/ monogamous or experimental ?

Monogamous


4/ material or spiritual ?

Spiritual


5/ talented or driven ?

Talented



... rank your answers in importance from 1-5, and please include your reasons if you can.

Spiritual-I need someone who loves Jesus as much as I do and will stop whenever I'm having a problem and just pray with me. I can't see myself being intimate (knowing someone fully and being fully known by them) if he isn't a strong Christian.

Monogamous- Personal preference, I suppose. And moral beliefs.

Spontaneous- I don't know if it was the greatest idea to have someone either be stable or spontaneous... because I'd like both, but... I guess spontanaity makes things a bit more fun. I'm pretty spontaneous, so I need someone who will do new things with me. I want someone who will just drive off to California with me for no reason. I need someone who will stay up all night, drive two hours just to watch the sunrise from the highest point in Wisconsin.

Talented- Whatever... talented is fun.

Aggressive- I like a guy who knows what he likes and goes for it... in most cases that is. Not stalker/never-giving-up-type, but someone who takes initiative on dates and stuff.

Miggy, I love you FF's... keep 'em comin!

~Sarah
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Reply #9 July 2, 2004 4:26:38 PM
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btw... who's in your link at the bottom of your article?

~Sarah
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Reply #10 July 2, 2004 5:45:27 PM
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Disclaimer: While at the current age of 21, I do not believe I currently possess a concrete image of the perfect woman insofar as all my qualities have not been completely defined.  With that said here's Ms. Rightnow.


1. Although I would like stability in a woman, historically I have always been attracted to spontaneous ones like a fly to a candle for better or worse, so spontaneity with an importance of 3.


2.I think this would be a 5 in it's importance because I really would like a lady that is as passive as I am. 


3.In it's importance this fairs as a 2 but I tend to gravitate towards conservatism because I would prefer monogamy but I am not obsessed with it.


4.Here's my age showing-I am definitely split in this category so I strictly will say equal amounts of both.


5.These are hard choices Mig I can't imagine having to make a woman from scratch like this it would be too hard.  As far as importance this would be a 5 and I would choose talent because all she would need is motivation which would be me...

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Reply #11 July 2, 2004 11:15:07 PM
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Disclaimer: While at the current age of 21, I do not believe I currently possess a concrete image of the perfect woman insofar as all my qualities have not been completely defined. With that said here's Ms. Rightnow.


That is an impressive observation.
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Reply #12 July 3, 2004 12:23:00 AM
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i love this thing. i love it. we have 4 males and 6 females, so it's taking on a pattern already. but i have to echo little_whip when i say no taking the soft option and choosing them both you naughty people !

(yes gene and psychx, that means you ! ... if the girls were brave enought to say it ...)

ok, so far:

of the girls it's half-and-half for spontaneous vs. stable at 3 each. next we have little_whip, sarah, and poetmom that chose an aggresive partner. dyl and sal went for passive, and kayles had both. ALL the girls with the exception of little_whip chose monogamy. (an interesting thing there, i think, is (as little_whip pointed out) the female assumption that that aggressive only means violent). next we have 6 OUT OF 6 for the first time with spirituality over materialism. way to go chickies !. last is 5 out of 6 for talent over drive, with little_whip selecting drive for the reason that talent alone is rarely enough to motivate someone.

of the guys it's spontaneous for gene, m-post, and psychx. cs guy alone elected stability. ALL THE GUYS went for monogamous with 4 out of 4. only psychx stayed on the fence for materialism and spirituality (but i let him get away with it), so half of the 4 men went for spritituality, with only cs guy opting for materialism. so impressed !. 3 out of 4 again with aggression chosen by all the guys except psychx again ! (he's a sweetie, isn't he ? hehe). last up we had the boys with 3 out of 4 for talet over drive, and gene cheated and said both but he makes me swoon so he gets away with it. heh.

i'm going to wait to do the overall rankings of importance in case we get any more answers. but so far, this has been the best one yet, and, like last week, it makes me wonder what man and women fight about ... we all seem to want the same things ... again !.

keep 'em coming everyone. you guys are soooo interesting. aw, shucks, i just love you all hehe


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Reply #13 July 3, 2004 1:13:39 AM
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gene cheated


No worries. I won't comment on these anymore. I don't know why I bothered.
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Reply #14 July 3, 2004 1:56:10 AM
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No worries. I won't comment on these anymore. I don't know why I bothered.


gene, your support of me here on ju means an awful lot to me, and i'm not beyond saying that in a very public way. i can only apologise and hope you come back to see it. i'm so sorry. i really am. if i thought for a second that my crappy joke would have offended you, i wouldn't have written it and i do mean that.

i know i'm not supposed to get upset about "blog people", but you've been so great to me and i am not about to let you think i don't need and appreciate your support here. because i do.

i'm sorry

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Reply #15 July 3, 2004 2:38:46 AM
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1/ spontaneous or stable ?


2/ passive or aggressive ?


3/ monogamous or experimental ?


4/ material or spiritual ?


5/ talented or driven ?


1. spontaneous - I like to live each day as a new adventure, a spouse who is too stable would go nuts

2. passive - this was the toughest one, but I am not fond of confrontations, I don't force them, and couldn't live easily with someone who did

3. monogamous - fidelity is one important key to a happy marriage

4. spiritual - I am not very material, and I need a spouse who understands that and is likeminded

5. driven - this is the one area where I chose a complete foil. I consider myself to be marginally talented, but have seen ample evidence that even marginally talented individuals, marketed correctly, can be successful in this day and age. I just need someone to give me a kick in the arse sometimes.
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Reply #16 July 3, 2004 3:59:06 AM
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I can't help but notice that spiritual and talented are the two most common answers, with one materialistic (you marvelouslly honest person) and two driven out of ten responses. Given a small sample, fair enough, we could get a fairly accurate and honest response from the people above. What strikes me as being unusual is that while they are the two most consistent choices, spiritualism (as i see it, as a search for transcendence, a betterment of our condition here, not after) is a rare quality that I (and this is anecdotal) have never truely encountered, even within the overtly religious (a vast difference between the two). As far as talent and drive. We have obviously chosen the jewel of the two and we all too often end up with people who possess neither. I believe that, maybe, 10% of the population have either trait, with those with talent lagging far behind the other.

I think that, by far, the hardest thing for intelligent, compassionate people to do, is to find the beautiful in people who possess none of these qualities, these mirages that plague the magazine racks and rom-com scenarios. To achieve the impossible, to, perhaps, achieve the spiritual, is to find beauty in oursleves, even though we are neither successfully materialistic, tranquilly spiritual, insanely driven or joyously (maybe grievously) talented.

Long have i suspected that class warfare has operated the lines inherent in these two questions - the upper classes never believing, even with evidence shoved up their pertly up-turned noses, that the working class could be possessed of talent, drive or spiritualism, only a crass materialism that revolves around schooners of beer and their daily pack of fags (cigarettes to the uninitiated). This could explain why I am so distrustful of these last two questions, coming from a staunchly working class background.

Sorry about the rant, but i enjoyed the questions (Mig, how can one be so socially aware while being so socially disconnected. More importantly how can one be so frightfully clever) and their responses. I couldn't answer the questions because my perfect women just doesn't live here, in between the rock and the hard place. I have to say that i prefer none of these options, they mean nothing in and of themselves. Here, if anywhere, resides a philosophical conundrum. What a wonderful puzzle
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Reply #17 July 3, 2004 3:59:09 AM
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keep 'em coming everyone. you guys are soooo interesting. aw, shucks, i just love you all hehe


Mumsy Mig, we're only soooo interesting, because you provide us with such interesting questions in the first place, but you know your fab already don't you, hehe! Luv ya mumsy xxx
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Reply #18 July 3, 2004 4:02:26 AM
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Dear God. I'm so sorry. I had no idea that comment was that long.

And Mig. I did read Interview... sorry i didn't comment. That needs to be on paper, tangible and warm, beautiful in its isolation. I loved it, and it only confirms, reaffirms, everything i have ever known and adored about you.

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Reply #19 July 3, 2004 8:23:55 PM
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5. driven - this is the one area where I chose a complete foil. I consider myself to be marginally talented, but have seen ample evidence that even marginally talented individuals, marketed correctly, can be successful in this day and age. I just need someone to give me a kick in the arse sometimes.


gideon, i hear you on that one. you know, it never ceases to amaze me at how such a vast array of people have such similar tastes and desires. when i'm feeling up to it, i might go back and find some (fictional) "perfect matches" from those answers. now THAT would be interesting. and i have to dob myself in soon, too


Mig, how can one be so socially aware while being so socially disconnected.


marco, i think it attacks me by osmosis when i go outside ... i inhale all these social conscience particles. the effect lasts as long as it takes the world to beat me up again


And Mig. I did read Interview... sorry i didn't comment. That needs to be on paper, tangible and warm, beautiful in its isolation. I loved it, and it only confirms, reaffirms, everything i have ever known and adored about you.


hey, thanks. but you know, i'm so unhappy that i offended gene that i've actually lost all heart for this friday five.


I think her chiding was both good natured and gentle, and im sure she didnt intend to hurt your feelings


thanks, little_whip. it was. i have so much respect for gene that, like i said, i feel quite ashamed about that comment. i just should have thought a bit harder i guess. but thankyou for re-iterating my intentions, as you say, it was not deliberate.


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Reply #20 July 3, 2004 8:43:16 PM
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I can't help but notice that spiritual and talented are the two most common answers, with one materialistic (you marvelouslly honest person)


I chose spiritual over materialist, because, frankly, no woman who is material would be happy for a long time with me. Also because my wife is one of the most spiritual women I know, who has put our family above any quest for money, fame, cars, what have you.
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Reply #21 July 3, 2004 9:01:45 PM
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with one materialistic (you marvelouslly honest person)


ma·te·ri·al·ism
n.
1. Philosophy. The theory that physical matter is the only reality and that everything, including thought, feeling, mind, and will, can be explained in terms of matter and physical phenomena.
2. The theory or attitude that physical well-being and worldly possessions constitute the greatest good and highest value in life.
3. A great or excessive regard for worldly concerns.

I just want to point out that my choice of materialism was based on definition 1, and that 2 and 3 are not important to me (as might be derived from my answer about talent/drive). Thanks for the honesty remark... there are few compliments I consider to be greater.
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Reply #22 July 3, 2004 9:02:40 PM
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Also because my wife is one of the most spiritual women I know, who has put our family above any quest for money, fame, cars, what have you.


gideon, it's wonderful to see how much you value that quality in your wife. i like to think that my husband may feel the same, despite his grumbling and moaning heh

thanks for all of your input, it's so appreciated, i'm very glad you've joined ju


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Reply #23 July 3, 2004 9:06:02 PM
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1/ spontaneous or stable ?
stable

2/ passive or aggressive ?
aggressive

3/ monogamous or experimental ?
monogamous

4/ material or spiritual ?
spiritual

5/ talented or driven ?
driven

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Reply #24 July 3, 2004 9:09:43 PM
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1. Philosophy. The theory that physical matter is the only reality and that everything, including thought, feeling, mind, and will, can be explained in terms of matter and physical phenomena.


cs guy, that's a good point. you chose materialism based on it's meaning as above, and not in any monetary way. that does make it more interesting. thanks for clarifying that.

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Reply #25 July 3, 2004 9:14:42 PM
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Reply By: greywar 1/ spontaneous or stable ?stable2/ passive or aggressive ?aggressive3/ monogamous or experimental ?monogamous4/ material or spiritual ?spiritual5/ talented or driven ?driven


greywar, i was waiting for someone to do this .. heh ... you have the same list as me, with only one difference. i want to say "hey everyone try and guess !", but that might earn me an embarrased silence ... but i'll do it anyway. i'm dumb like that.

hey everyone ... greywar and myself have only one different answer ... what is it ? ... and does anybody really care ? hehe


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