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Ability Moves from Ship to Ship...

(Or i'm up to my neck, now what do i do?)

September 8, 2008 10:28:31 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums

i've only been playing/changing things for a week, but have mostly messed with numbers. have changed some weapons from one ship to another. i thought it would be cool to have a beam weapon on a scout. actually i wonder why the devs didn't have projectiles for the tec, beams for the advent and maybe some different plasma effect, perhaps like globs of light shot from the vasari. it would make for a nice difference, off topic, but anyway, now i am attempting to move some abilities from one ship to another, in an effort to consolidate those abilities i want into one ship. this way i don't need three or four ships, only one.

I have been reading over the general modding threads and the intro to modding that was so interesting, but i haven't seen anything on abilities yet. perhaps i am blind, it is probably in the forum somewhere. Before i go on, perhaps a search would prove worthwhile.

take care and keep modding! 

-teal

 

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Reply #1 September 8, 2008 10:34:40 PM
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This is actually pretty simple. Each ship's entity file (up top for capitals, towards the bottom for frigates usually) has a list of the 4 ability slots for that ship. The abilities listed correspond to the file names. All you have to do is list the abilities you want the ship to have in its entity file

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Reply #2 September 8, 2008 10:39:54 PM
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And because it's late and I'm forgetting stuff, moving capital ship abilities to frigates is a bit trickier.

Capital abilities have this:

maxNumLevels 3
levelSourceType "Intrinsic"
minExperienceLevelRequired
    Level:0 0.000000
    Level:1 2.000000
    Level:2 4.000000

"Intrinsic" means the ability's level depends on the level of the ship (1, 3, 5 respectively, the files start counting at 0 rather than 1). Since frigates don't have levels, this won't work. So all frigate abilities need to have:

maxNumLevels 1
levelSourceType "FixedLevel0"

For the ability to be always "on". If you're curious, abilities that you research look like:

maxNumLevels 1
levelSourceType "ResearchWithoutBase"
improveSourceResearchSubject "RESEARCHSUBJECT_ABILITYACCESS_SABOTAGEENGINES"

As an example But since none of the capital ship abilities need research, you don't need to worry about this one.

 

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Reply #3 September 9, 2008 12:56:20 PM
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hee hee, a scout with capital level gauss cannons or an anti-fighter craft with capital level "Flak Burst" set to 3 antimatter and 5s delay.  BOOM!BOOM!BOOM!BOOM!BOOM!BOOM!   Eat that Drone-Whoring, Advent Witches!

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Reply #4 September 9, 2008 5:00:55 PM
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I sense hostility.

 

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Reply #5 September 9, 2008 11:29:56 PM
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Fear the almighty Cobalt and its mind controlling powers of doom and detruction!

 

I am .

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Reply #6 September 10, 2008 2:55:50 PM
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Annatar11,

                        Thank you very very much!     I inserted the ability names, but completely missed the level thing. 

Will try it, and let you know the results.   Haha, Beware The DreadNaught Scout!!  

of course if I make it too easy, then I will have to figure out a way to balance the other side to keep it interesting.

But right now, just staying alive is wonderful!!  

Thank you again and take care,

-Teal

 

 

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Reply #7 September 10, 2008 3:00:00 PM
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You're welcome Actually, another thing I just remembered - the level 6 capital abilities have a flag in their ability files "isUltimate TRUE". I'm not sure what effect, if any, that flag would have if you left that on a frigate's ability, but the normal ones are set to FALSE.

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Reply #8 September 10, 2008 3:02:50 PM
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Quoting SemazRalan,
reply 3
hee hee, a scout with capital level gauss cannons or an anti-fighter craft with capital level "Flak Burst" set to 3 antimatter and 5s delay.  BOOM!BOOM!BOOM!BOOM!BOOM!BOOM!   Eat that Drone-Whoring, Advent Witches!

 

SemazRalan,

                       Haha ...   Since im one of the Drone-W----- Advent Witches I can't properly agree. 

But what about Boom!Boom!Boom!Boom!Boom!  Eat that... Tenacious Tecs! ?   

Oops, haha But I like the Advent Scout with Advent Capital Carrier level Beams! 

-Teal

p.s. Thank you for the nice idea!   

 

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Reply #9 September 10, 2008 3:07:18 PM
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Kitkun,

                Haha,  you think he will like it when I use my Advent Witches Scout/Capital on him in multiplayer?

  Of course i'm not any good yet, so I would die in MP anyway!  (But don't tell him that, we will let him worry a bit)

  Haha, this is wonderful!!

-Teal

 

 

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Reply #10 September 10, 2008 3:09:39 PM
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Annatar11,

                      Ahhhhhhh....  I will keep an eye out for that when looking in the files. Appreciate the help and time, have a great one out there! 

-Teal

 

 

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Reply #11 September 10, 2008 3:13:13 PM
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Quoting SpardaSon21,
reply 5
Fear the almighty Cobalt and its mind controlling powers of doom and detruction!

 

I am .

 

   Now there is a coder after my own heart!!    

You know your thought made me think of a "all psychic" ship. I used to play "controllers" in City of Hero's, and the controllers were weak physically, but were mean at a distance.     Might be interesting to see if i could put a ship together with low armor and weapons, and "psych" them out.     Haha...  thank you for the interesting idea. Take care,

-Teal

 

 

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Reply #12 September 10, 2008 4:30:47 PM
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Does anyone know how to upload a pic for your avatar?  I know it sounds silly, but

I keep uploading and nothing shows up, either in ie, or in firefox. hmm....

Haha, if that were the worst of my issues I would have it made!

Thank you and sorry to ask so many questions, but you all are wonderful!

Take care,

-Teal

 

 

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Reply #13 September 10, 2008 4:34:52 PM
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It needs to be a 50x50 before you upload, the forum doesn't resize it for you

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Reply #14 September 13, 2008 2:08:41 PM
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Annatar11,

                      Thank you!!  I had a 63 x 63... but didn't realize it needed to be 50 x 50. Thank you. Oh... just as a followup, I got the capital fighters and bombers, as well as the beam and projectile weapons, two of the Anima powers and the colonize and capture powers from the missionary vessel. I tuned down the speed, but increased the weapons by about 20, about 40 percent increase. Anyway, was marvelously waltzing through everything, almost so much that it was boring, haha. Until i got an advent partner in one game who turned on me, and they have access to the same ship. Oh no!!  Anyway, am now trying to figure out a way to see if there are ships or tweaks that will only apply to the player (me), instead of to all the advent race.

I also saw someone had made a new race in a mod, and that may be the best way, just to try that one.

Take care and keep modding!!  

-Teal

 

 

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