very heated dicussion. but serioulsy ironclad does need to nerf the carriers a little bit. the game is no fun when you have to build espensive carriers instead of the ships you want to build. there is no stragety anymore. all it is is whoever hase the most fighters and bombers(i will not say carriers because advent carriers carry 3 wheras vasari and TEC carry 2)and adding flak guns would be retarded because THAT IS FUCKING FLAK FRIGATES ARE FUCKING FOR!!
No nerf to carriers is needed. Fixing the flak frigate is what is needed.
anyway i would much rather ironclad changes the carriers back to one squad and have lrm spams again be then you could have fun in how you beat it and if you knew how use carriers back then you could beat a lrm spam.
Nerfing carriers to 1 squad means carriers are effectively removed from the game. I see no reason to remove carriers from the game - we would then have one less unit in a game which already has too few unit types. Morover, the carrier is a unique unit, so we would be left with non-unique units which do nothing except close with and shoot other units.
If I have to choose which spam to live with in the game, I choose carrier spam. At least that way you actually SEE other unit types (lrf) on the way to carrier spam (the spammer generally "techs through" to get carriers, and needs something in the meantime until carriers can be produced). If we go back to lrf spam, lrf is the only unit you will see. Nothing else, no other unit.
BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR IN UNIT NERFS. The PJI was nerfed into oblivion coming out of beta. It took a couple of patches before it was put back to anything approaching "usable," and I have still only seen it used ONCE in an online game. I haven't seen returning armada used since its nerf. Siege frigs were nerfed, and while I actually applauded that nerf (for once), there are many who say it was an over-nerf, and they are probably right (think about it - who uses siege frigs?). Flak frigs were nerfed... did this create a problem for any of you?
If carriers are nerfed, it will be an over-nerf, and we will have one more useless unit for the game. Fix the flak frig. That's all that needs to be done.