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Matter processor spam

March 19, 2009 12:35:01 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums

Last night I was playing a game versus a Vasari opponent and he built something like 6 matter processors at one of his desert worlds,  I thought this was like a normal refinery and anything more than 3  (4 if bordering on a unclaimable with mines in it) of these things was pointless did I miss something?

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Reply #1 March 19, 2009 1:44:13 PM
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It is, you missed nothing.

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Reply #2 March 19, 2009 1:50:02 PM
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The only benefit to the more processors I know ofwould be that more of the refinery ships would be built at one time meaning you could lose a few of them and still be pulling in the max resources.

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Reply #3 March 19, 2009 2:03:37 PM
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General rule of thumb, spamming "refineries" is the worst tactic in the game.  Only if you have a sweet, sweet planet, would you put refineries.  Astax had such an awesome spot last night, but that only means you put 4 at that planet and no more.

Trade on the other hand...yeah, that stacks until the cows come home.

BTW, Astax, for the record, that was the most awesome planet setup I ever saw for refineries: 1 dessert connected to 4 gas giants with 3 extractors each.

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Reply #4 March 19, 2009 2:53:13 PM
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BTW, Astax, for the record, that was the most awesome planet setup I ever saw for refineries: 1 dessert connected to 4 gas giants with 3 extractors each.

Holy cows.

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Reply #5 March 19, 2009 3:43:45 PM
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Quoting Howdidudothat,
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BTW, Astax, for the record, that was the most awesome planet setup I ever saw for refineries: 1 dessert connected to 4 gas giants with 3 extractors each.

 

I'm tempted to to calculate the odds of that happening in a random match, but I know I'd leave out some variable or another that would make it even more unlikely.

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Reply #6 March 19, 2009 5:22:51 PM
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Yes that was very odd occurance.  That map was so imbalanced we had probably 20 neutrals on our side of the map, the other side had nothing.  Oh how I miss the old resoruce option for setup. 

A neutral extractor is equivelent to a tradeport in income on a short route.  Of course tradeport becomes better,but so can the extractor with tech.

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Reply #7 March 19, 2009 8:18:06 PM
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BTW, Astax, for the record, that was the most awesome planet setup I ever saw for refineries: 1 dessert connected to 4 gas giants with 3 extractors each.

Wow...I don't think I've ever seen that before!

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Reply #8 March 19, 2009 9:12:02 PM
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BTW, Astax, for the record, that was the most awesome planet setup I ever saw for refineries: 1 dessert connected to 4 gas giants with 3 extractors each.

 

PLEASE say you had vasari!  and to OP if they spammed refiniries please say they lost.

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Reply #9 March 19, 2009 10:03:25 PM
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WHy would having vasari make a difference? I had TEC, they get refinery too.

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Reply #10 March 20, 2009 12:11:27 AM
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Quoting superfingers,
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PLEASE say you had vasari!  and to OP if they spammed refiniries please say they lost.

I was TEC, and ya they lost.  I'm pretty new to the game (about a week and a half now) but we had a mexican standoff on eitherside of a small system that only connected up thru the star (which I fortified with a fully upgraded starbase).  I outproduced him bigtime so even when he fired the Kostura at my homeworld and jumped thru to sack it, I went on to kill his entire fleet and then his planets.

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Reply #11 March 20, 2009 12:03:11 PM
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Quoting GoaFan77,
reply 5

Quoting Howdidudothat, reply 3
BTW, Astax, for the record, that was the most awesome planet setup I ever saw for refineries: 1 dessert connected to 4 gas giants with 3 extractors each.
 

I'm tempted to to calculate the odds of that happening in a random match, but I know I'd leave out some variable or another that would make it even more unlikely.

Only happens when playing against me

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Reply #12 March 20, 2009 3:16:10 PM
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WHy would having vasari make a difference?

that setup with vasari's fast resource researches and superior neutral grabbing would make them a freakin powerhouse

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Reply #13 March 20, 2009 10:27:44 PM
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superior neutral grabbing would make them a freakin powerhouse

Yeah, I had #1 fleet and #1 econ.  I had trade up and teching 2nd fleet supply in about 10-15 min.  It was pretty rediculous.

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