Just ban marzas.Whatch most TEC people not be happy.

I've never run into this, to be honest. Sounds like people who are either good, and sick of losing to less skilled players because of op illums, or sorta bad, and can't cope with Advent.

You just don't let the game start unless someone still has the race you don't want selected.

I play advent exclusively and have never been banned or otherwise blocked from playing a game.  Advent aren't unbeatable.  I should know.  I have lost many games and the majority of those have been to vasari rather than another advent.  I am not saying advent aren't tough in the right hands but so is any race in the right hands.  An advent can tank missle barrage but its never an easy thing.  Shield restore at level 3 heals 500 shield over 8 seconds and missle barrage does 3000 over 25 seconds before mitigation.  Illums will still leave pretty heavily damaged if not destroyed at the end if they stand still and take it without interupting depending on upgrades and supporting units/structures.  A vasari SB with any kind of support will mess up a good sized battle ball pretty easily. 

[_]-Greyfox

Were you planning on winning with just the marza alone?  The marza is one cap(albeit a good one) but you cant expect to win with just a marza(sorry to disappoint you marza people that were used to winning with one press of a button).  You know there are ways of interrupting Shield Restore the same as there are ways of interrupting a Marza.  Even with iconus guardians there to soak up damage, they can only soak up so much damage.  Their shields are quickly erased when they are tanking their 33 percent of incoming damage with 20 or 30 or more illums get hit in their coverage range.  Covering 33 percent of the damage of 20 illums for one wave(120 damage) of missle barrage is 792 damage(120 x 33% x 20).  Thats about half the shields of 1 guardian gone from covering 1 wave out of 25 waves of a missle barrage.  Shield restore isnt gonna replace that fast enough.  Thats not counting the damage the guardian receives directly. I am not sure if it goes through a second shield mitigation for its coverage but its still a lot of damage on its shoulders.  If the player is using the guardian for its shield projection to start with, then they aren't gonna have as much AM for push and if they are deciding to tank it anyways then they aren't really going to push much anyways because missle barrage outranges push by a hefty margin.  3 ways of interrupting is not a ton of ways and you have to buy cap supply and a cap to even counter missle barrage outside of letting it rape you or running.

[_]-Greyfox

MB is easily interupted if an average player is paying attention...

But I'm not surprised advent are beginning to be banned on games.  Just wait people, the Devs will have something for us soon.

Actually, look at this thread that Frogboy posted...

https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/361724

At the very end, Sins Diplomacy is listed as also being featured, so that is why the silence

Illums didn't come back 2 months ago.  People just started griping about it 2 months ago.  The real change came when carriers got nerfed post 1.1.  The vasari are good already.  Ever tried to beat a vasari SB rush early on.  Its hard to do even with feed.

[_]-Greyfox

Try playing with Tyr when he SB rushes you.  Even when you are expecting it, it can be difficult.  Advent doesn't get nano or assailants.  Illums are tier 3 and difficult to get out in numbers sufficiently to kill off a SB if the enemy is within 3 jumps of your hw and once the SB is up it rapes lrf of any kind and you are left with no fleet and your hw controlled by the enemy.  Yes I do know how much a SB costs and its easy enough to get early on considering vasari SB is tier 2.  You are left killing it with carriers if you can get them up or a small handful of illums.  Combined with the fact that the enemy normally brings his egg with him to nano and maybe a handful of other units makes it exceedingly difficult to fight off even with feed. 

Don't know what game you have been playing but illum spam has always been a pretty good thing to do except for 1.1 when fighters were great.

[_]-Greyfox

Tyr is a pro beyoned pros so not a good talking point if you are talking about balance. Anyway the SB spam need to be adressed but Ilums are way before that and if you want to keep your blasted ilums fine but it is not funny they wreak the game. A good advent player gets three labs up before you can blink and before you know it they are breaking down your door. You need to play the other race for a change. I play the TEC a little and did win the first advent game game I played. You need to see that the Ilums are a hard to counter if the advent player knows what he is doing.

Yes someone see the light  The Vas need an SB nerf though. Those things pop up like flys,   that is way to fast.  

Yes. What we need the Vas SB to start with a slower starting build time than other races SBs in enimy grav wells then with tec go way faster. So you can get one up when you are in late games where it is a lot harder to pull off.

I ment buff the Vas overall but look in to Nerfing the build time of the Orukus in enimy grav wells