there is no "equal and opposite" with gravity, as its not technically a force, rather (as by einstein's equations and reasoning) its a curvature of spacetime.

einstein describes gravity as being the same as being pulled along in an elevator by a string, the difference there being that 1) that gravitational field is represented only in one reference frame within certain parameters and 2) the force being applied in the elevator is akin to gravity, however it has nothing to do with timespace curvature.

so, the reason that objects will turn infinitely in orbit, yet nothing turns in the opposite direction is because gravity is not technically a 'force' so much as a 'force like phenomena' arrisen through the curvature of spacetime fabric.

so the question here is: does the alien tech use actual gravity, or the gravity-like substitute, if its really the substitute then there should be a massive outpouring of inertia or energy in the opposite direction of the turn, if its actually gravity then what we'll have is (if they didnt nescessarily directionalize it) a vortex like event occur when these things turn (as all the air gets sucked in from numerous directions) and if they DID directionalize gravity, damn I want to know how.

Personally, I'm assuming "gravity like phenomena" that is directionalized (sic), otherwise it doesn't make sense (given that any mass great enough to produce the kind of acceleration we're talking about would play havoc with anything else in the vicinity...).

Also, we're starting to get in over my head physics wise... cool!

well, we're assuming that they either use some sort of energy to warp spacetime, or they manipulate the theoretical gravitons to warp it. either way I really dont see how you can directionalize gravity...


pick up einstein's book on the theories of general and special relativity, its actually a really good read. (and you really dont need to know much about physics other than what he references, which you can use wiki for)

Not an actual panic, but many people who have invested heavily in oil companies will start drawing money out as fast as possible while other peope will try to sell short to make a pretty penny or buy up shares in new companies. Not to mention the splurge of new companies that would eat away at whatever is left in investing dolars and then crash in a month or two.

A BIG crash.

Anyone who timed it wrong or did something stupid with it would lose BIG and that would be very bad. It would make some poor people rich and some rich people poor and thats enough to make bad things happen

Well in retrospect that may happen but it wouldnt be the worst. The worst would be if the middle class would get heavily involved again like in the 1920s then we could have an actual depression.

the middle class would be some of the first to be involved, companies would constantly be advertising 'the chance of a lifetime' and many people would see it as just that, especially since the news and everyone would say that it is revolutionizing the world. There wouldnt be the middle class of america doing this, there would be everyone in the entire world that would be trying to get rich, some would make it, most wouldnt.

Don't forget that a large part of the reason the Great Depression occurred was because a lot of people were buying stocks on credit. We've learned better, so thats gone.

In fact, we've had worse stock market recessions than the "Black Tuesday" crash that caused the Great Depression, (two, I think) and come through them fine.

No, we had more expensive stock crashes, but we have never had one that was worse. Just last week the stock market lost 1 trillion dollars, that is way worse then the Great Depression in term of money, but not many people lost jobs over it.

although in the end your point is invalid as action would be taken to counteract such a collapse. such as, persay, freezing the stockmarket.

almost missed this.

uh, NO. emp, no. even the fastest of computers so far cannot do a millionth of the processing the average human brain does with visual data alone. the only thing gunning for computers is that they are configurable, so a lot of computers networked will INDIVIDUALLY outperform each section of the brain (if you dice the brain up enough, no computer can even rival our auditory perception, which is oh too simple), but then you have that nasty distance that needs to be crossed before the signals are understood.

and like I said, part of the human miracle is that parts of the cortex corrosponding to a certain phenomena (voice recognition) act as their own solid state memory, rather than traversing the great buss to get to the cpu.

The government would never be allowed to do this. Only Congress has such commercial power and seeing as it is made up of the wealthy who have a lot riding on such a stock crash and gain would be caught at a stand still of arguements.

Thats an easy way of putting away something that have happend for many many years.

What would humans gain form making those corn circels? 10min of fame? i dont think so.
Well some might be, but saying that all are fake is just pushing away evidence that something beond our understanding is happening.
Also keep in mind, they might think alot different then us. I would say its like comparing us and animals.



ICBM missile at 16,000 m.p.h
who knows why they did it, but also who knows what the IBMS missile where intended to do..

you shame yourself multianna, thats talking about theoretical anti-nukes. theoretical being one of the key words, anti- being the other.
god, 1956, thats before sputnik!... ICBMs were not that powerful back then.

you underestimate the stupid things people will do for fame... just look at jackass.
also, if they are so genius then they would know how to interface with our technology (which is as rudimentary as it gets, our most complex form of information relay has two variables, the number and distance of waves) if they cant understand that they aren't smart enough to look down on us.

again, I reitterate; if they have to rely on text written in corn, they are not even worth bothering with.

and what would they accomplish by doing this to the breadbasket? why not write this stuff on the side of buildings?

*laugh*
you dont think the president couldnt do this if he wanted to? I'll tell you, excecutive override. its not in any legal documents, doesnt matter.

even if, the wealthy would NOT benefit by such a crash, they would lose their entire customer base.

So you know for a fact they didnt have tests of that sort of speedly missiles? btw did you even see the video, where they talk about the missile?




corn circel being made by 2 ufo's.
Could it be a fake? yes i could. But since you are convinced that all of them are fake, id like to know what anyone would gain from something like this.

again, I reitterate; if they have to rely on text written in corn, they are not even worth bothering with.
So just because they do something you dont understand, you think they are less intelligent? or what ever reason you might have.

again, it gets them in the local newspaper.

its not that I dont understand it, its just that its not any sort of efficient means of communication in any form of technology.

here, taken to your own advice: if they are so advanced, why are they writing in "alien script" that looks exactly like the classical, B-rated horror flick "alien" writing? shouldnt it be something utterly beyond comprehension?

"people attribute the unknown to that which they do not understand"
as far as I'm concerned, abductions, shiny lights, corn field signs and "flying disks" are simply another form of mythology. are there aliens? absolutely, are they here? I doubt it, are they flattening our corn, placing alien devices in people and flying in our atmosphere for no plausible reason? no.

Same thing I was about to ask actual, but I would have said mountains. Bigger and more noticable.



I dont know what shreds you think the constitution could be reduced to(knowing your a republican), but the president would be linched for being the one to call such an action. Just for calling it, not for acutually acting it out.

No, the wealthy would benifit, they could aquire entire companies in such a crash because the 'commoners' would drop most of their shares.

[quote] corn circel being made by 2 ufo's. [/qupte]

The tape is probably edited, watch it several times and you might notice several flickers in crucial points of the tape. Not to mention that if anyone really wanted to view the UFOs they would zoom in to reveal part of them, unless they werent taping actual UFOs and the objects in the video would be proof against the video.



I agree.

Though if I was an alien this is the kind of mind trick I would play on a primitive race.

Scientists find great big hole in universe

Make of that what you will!

That is a fake. I saw it on a tv show a few weeks ago, along with the guy who filmed it. One way you can tell is by what the camera does. If you were filming UFOs making a crop circle, you'd follow the little lights, right? This keeps directly focused on the field.

I had the fealing it was fake, was making a point that not all corn circels are fake.

taste like a pork chop!

The stock market crash is not what brought on the great depression; it was the closing of the banks and the lost deposits of the people. We now insure those accounts for $100,000 each. No more run on banks, no more panics, and no more "great depressions".

A stock market crash would not be the end of the world; we would suffer for a short time and then would rebound. (We have developed a new system to prevent the weaknesses of the old from repeating themselves, we learned our lesson).

and don't forget all those people buying stocks on credit, because even creditors thought that stocks would just go up in value.

Very true!

people wouldnt object in times of crisis.

I repeat: the companies would be dead because the customers would be gone. nobody benefits from such a crash, even when the money is concentrated.

you're right on the second part, but the first part is incorrect

people suffered from not being able to withdraw money, but thats BECAUSE of the crash of the stockmarket, not vice versa.
the insuring is meant to help rebound such an event.

now you're seeing the tie to the banks.