As "Uranium - 235" said, 'Console gamers become Burger King managers.' So that would mean I would need to quit as the co-founder of my current company in the gaming industry and trash my resume which consists of work experience in such companies as Electronic Arts. If you want to verify you can just hit me up and I'll give you some info to contact the Admin Asst. there.

Now that I've got that off my chest, this issue about the PS3 having games 'ported' to it is the comment of a true idiot. You CAN NOT port games to the PS3 numb nuts. The core of the PS3 is different from that of a PC or an Xbox 3FixMe. I am both a console and PC gamer and have been gaming on both my whole life. PC gaming is great, but its not always the best for every genre. RTS and Turn-based Strategy games are always best on a PC. If you ever played C&C:Red Alert for Playstation then you know what I'm talking about. Even with the keyboard and mouse hook-ups for the consoles of today dont give you the same PC feel. But thats not to say that the PS3 (or even the 360) can't handle some great games. I wouldn't doubt if these consoles over power some of your very own PC's. I dont even see how some of you can sit there and boast and brag about a PC you own thats running on a weak @$$ OS. Windows is one of the worst OS's out there and you want to try to place above a Linux/Unix based OS (PS3)? Talk about a sad place to live. I'm glad I didn't grow up in this gaming generation...

Perhaps the storyline was a little bit meh... (The admiral didn't grasp the simple thermodynamic principles that made it abundantly clear that throwing a nuke at the aliens was a really bad idea?! I mean, seriously, did anyone not see what was coming when they launched that nuke?) The gameplay was quite interesting.

Don't feed the trolls PPL.

Did you even play Crysis? I'm sure your experience with shooters is limited to the corridor-crawling of Gears of War and Halo, but they've never had a game like Crysis. Go ahead and drop a name if you can.

Besides it's testament enough that you can only name one mildly retarded game on the PC. Can I show you my list and you can defend such awesome games like Assassin's Creed, Timeshift, Rainbow Six Las Vegas, Rainbow Six Las Vegas 2, CoD2, CoD3, CoD4, Kane & Lynch Dead Men, Gears of War, BF2:Modern Combat, BF2: Bad Company, Oblivion, Halo, and oh, Madden? Let's start there.

Thats okay Ron, not knocking the gameplay, I love games with an open-world eviroment and a lessened emphasis on linear gameplay.

But its hard to argue with nothing more than a combonation of unbacked ignorance and arrogance without bieng dragged down into a subjective flame-war   

Consoles are more powerful than PCs? Dual-booting is a myth?

If your shareholders heard you talk like this they'd sell in a heartbeat, as anything run by someone as mind-numbingly retarded as you is doomed.

Honestly that confused me...  :NOTSURE: 

Why are you trying to imply that I was the one that brought up Crysis in the first place? Wasnt that you?

And you want me to Defend your list?.. huh? Does it help if I mention that most of the games you mentioned there are also on consoles? Or are you implying that those were the games that I should be defending as a console player  :NOTSURE: 

In any case lets add a one or two more, such as Mercenaries(fav xbox game) mercenaries 2 coming soon    and Ninja Gaiden 1&2.

No, it was just the first one to come to mind. Try defending WoW plus most of your list. Last I checked, everything but Halo 3 is PC as well, and maybe Timeshift, Kane and Lynch, and Madden (not too sure on those). I used Crysis because it was PC only, so you couldn't very well claim it was dumbed down for the console.
Oblivion and CoD2 were definitely very good games, and Oblivion is more of a PC game than console, so what is it doing on that list.

And what about the fact that the Kotor, Kotor II, and Morrowind are commonly agreed to be some of the best original Xbox games ever - and they sold well on the PC, too. If console gamers were as dumb as you're trying to claim, they wouldn't have been so discerning.

Sylenall:
I brought up Crysis in an attempt to illustrate the stupidity of his claim that console gamers were driving an increasing focus on graphics instead of gameplay.

All of the games listed that are 'on the console too' are watered down weak versions of the original. The only shining example of 'console only' games I have seen mentioned is Ninja Gaiden, and even that one gets pretty boring pretty quick.

Console = weak alternative to gaming any way you slice it.

All those titles such as Oblivion suffered in their port, and not just in graphics but also control and all other things dealing with the interface.

PC > Console

Case closed.

Heck Halo would have been 10x better if it had been strictly developed for the PC - but Microsoft bought it, dumbed it down and made if for the Xbox and it is a SHADOW of what it could have been.

I still remember seeing screenshots of it before it was bought out by Microsoft, truly was going to be a thing to behold on the PC. Then the Xbox took it and ruined it.

Halo is complete suck. Worst game ever, yet the console kiddies eat it up like it's actually good.

LOL

seriously

LOL

Wait, aren't you cerebral PC elitists supposed to not care about graphics? I mean, its the idiot console gamers who are causing this focus on graphics, so why the hell do you care? Face it, PC gamers are just as focused on graphics as any console gamer - more so, if Crysis is any indication.



When has anyone here denied that? The problem I have is with assholes who claim that PC gamer > Console gamer

Generally speaking, PC gamers are usually > console gamers

even that much you can agree to.

And graphics aren't the only thing that suffer on a console, processing power to do AI routines etc.. are vastly limited on a console. Take this game for instance, it would never run on a console - not enough horsepower - controls aside.

*sigh* Naplam your latest double post was noting but unadulterated opinion without even the slightest hint of logic or evidence to support your claim... It is rather hard to argue something of that nature so I wont even bother.

also please dont say CASE CLOSED and then post again right after   

Blood I'd love to stay and give you a hand arguing with these techno-supremists but unfortunatly I've gotta go to work  (:(  Maybe when I come back this will have developed into something even remotly close to an intelligent debate.

I'll admit that the community for a game like this is probably much better than the average console community. It's also better than the average PC community. Console FPS communities and PC FPS communities are probably exactly the same (meaning the type of gamer you'd find in them). The average PC community and the average console community are roughly equivalent, so its really the fact that good strategy games are hard do to within the console's limitations that are holding it back.

Intelligent debate is unlikely to occur. Which is ironic, considering we're arguing about the intelligence of console gamers vs PC gamers.

There's no such thing as a console community. Everything that makes a community is PC-centric.

Everything that is CONDUCIVE to a community is PC-centric.

That is an incredably anal distinction if I have ever heard one. Are you trying to say that console gamers can't develop a community just because they have to use a PC to do so? Ignoring, of course, the fact that you don't actually need a PC to use the internet?

Amazing. The guy asks a yes or no question, basically, and the flame wars begin.

No need to flame people that play consoles. Yes, a lot of REALLY TERRIBLE games sell millions for them, but that's because, for the most part, the audience is fresh to videogames - I know a lot of people whose first FPS was Halo on the original Xbox. These guys don't have a history to look back on and say 'remember the days when games didn't suck?'. They'll get there in time. Soon after that they'll realize that PC games are fuller and stronger because of the nature of the platform.

If people want to play consoles, perhaps you could INFORM them that really good games exist on PC and even the ones that are also on consoles are more fleshed out, have more content, look way better with the right hardware, play easier, and have better interfaces. But I guess that isn't as fun as flaming them outright and questioning their worth as human beings.

By the way, Crysis is the last example I'd pick of a PC's superiority over consoles. I mean the game has fucking JASON STATHAM as an NPC in it. Seriously. Sure the graphics are great, but it looks like they don't scale properly, and only a small percentage of Colombian druglords can play it at max. I liked Far Cry WAAAAAAAY better as a single player game. Hopefully Far Cry 2 isn't too consolified for my tastes. Crysis has the worst AI I've ever seen in any game... EVER! Terrible game choice.

Crysis is more like the PCs Lair, imo. (Yes, I went there.) Graphics don't count much for game quality. Good graphics help a game along, but art direction is more important than raw graphical power for looks. Though I guess shitting bloom all over the screen helps tidy some things up. To be honest, I preferred almost every 'linear' game to Crysis' very mediocre open gameplay.

The main advantage of the PC is its interface. The interface allows players to have more game types and modes with more complex controls. Perfect example would be think of Starcraft on PC vs. N64. Even a noob could beat Boxer if he was PC and Boxer was N64. The interface allows us to go places that other interfaces just can't go. We can't copy the Wii entirely (yet), though.

The next advantage after that is, for lack of a better term, the unmitigated unchanneled power of the internet. It's hard to have a modding community, for example, for a console game because of the nature of consoles. Even console games have to be developed on PCs because it's just easier.

Anyway, be nice people.

Joke thread scores 0/10

Somehow I doubt there are many 1600x1200 or comparable wide screen resolution tv's hooked up to console with keyboards and mice out there that would make what I can do on the internet comparable to what someone with an xbox is doing on the internet...

It's the rock solid picture, crystal clear clarity, ample real estate, and excellent functionality of a good pc system that lets me waste time reading text without going blind or crazy.

Where consoles excel? Four geeks playing a game and bullshitting each other in person. Smash brothers just would not have been the same on the pc with your opponent in another state as you chewed him up and spit him off the edge with the unholy might of kirby, the pink... thing.

One can say that the ffstation(er playstation) is good for playing rpgs, but one could also say that the rpgs are an utter piece of shit, with lame combat systems, terrible gui's, and only popular because rpg's in general have been spastic if not just completely fucked up. Come on, diablo was popular for christ sake, how desperate can the rpg players get? For the most part, games on consoles have actually gotten more dumbed down as time went by. How much more complex and imaginative was ffix than ffiii? Um... ooh! cut scenes! fmv cut scenes!

Then there's the console gamers themselves. Halo, the xbox king... A defining game in the genre, to hear them tell it. The next best thing since sliced bread is a really boring, preposterously easy mixture of tribes and unreal. It was old news even before they made it really really stupid so you could play it on an xbox controller without going mental. The only positive point to the game is that the fans are too busy playing it to breed, thus saving humanity from their progeny. Educate thyselves, please.

N64 is the smash brothers console, nothing else has interested me enough to waste money on something I have to hook up to a piece of shit tv to play. If you've spent enough to buy a good computer, yay 1080i!!! If you haven't, please don't even try to say your tv is actually functional for doing something besides watching tv. Even when they had good games, they just weren't functional. Just think of how much better smash brothers would have been on a monitor with a nice 1600x1200 resolution You'd consist of multiple pixels when spread out on a large map. The household tv hasn't changed much over the last 20 years, you can't do much with consoles until tv's become useful.

Also, did someone seriously say oblivion was a good game? Did I miss something there? I played a game with a lamebrain interface, really pretty graphics with really bad optimization behind them, and plot and quest mechanics that made me wish I were playing evercrap to escape some of the grinding. /wrists.

I know he is making fun of the mac OSX guys but I'll reply.

if they used something like XNA it would be easy to use on 360. But still u dotn want to play strategy game, rts for that matter with a gamepad.

Hey guys, didn't you hear? The games you play determine your social status! It's true! Pay no attention to the fact that both consoles and PCs have games that cater to the lowest common denominator (WoW and Halo). Pay no attention to the fact that both consoles and PCs have their share of awesome and classic games (Starcraft and Resident Evil 4). Pay no attention to the fact that there are driveling morons abound on both gaming spectrums. The tools you use to have fun are serious business.

You all realize of course, that a console is really a computer as well?

Oh true, its not nearly as customizable as a pc, but its still a computer.

In answer the the original question, this game is not and probably will not (hopefully never in my opinion becaues if they had to port this game it would suck simply due to lack of contorls, buttons, ect.) ever be on a console.

-edit, oh and psychoak

Oblivion is a really good game, its fair for consoles, fricken AWESOME for the PC, theres gotta be at least 200,000 mods for that thing now, with plenty of AI enhancements to go around.

I am sorry but Crysis was one of the shittiest games i've played in a long time.
Really, horrible. If you want to talk about games that are on PC and not 360 or PS3 (eww) u should talk about the battlefield series and all the great RTS's. Consoles are quickly becoming the dominant platform for first person shooters, already dominate racing games, are working well with RPGS. Now, i play the shit out of Sins, but I really think that MOST of the games that have come out in recent history for PC have been pretty damn lame, save bioshock, which is on 360 as well Other than those games, and I am a fan of Halo 3 and COD4, there really hasn't been anything good to speak of.

What i'm saying here is PC exclusive games are starting to = shit unless they are RTSs.
And this is coming from someone who knows and loves computers and i have my own homebuilt gaming computer. I'm not some console crazy.

Again, CRYSIS WAS PURE SHIT. ONLY SUPER PC BUFFS THAT "OMFG SUPER GFX FTW" ARE FOOLED. There was nothing new about the gameplay, the storyline was Predator with some twists, vehicles were garbage, the shooting was shitty, and so what if you can tackle a mission any way u want...It didn't make the missions fun...

Please dont port Sins to PS3.I dont want Sins 2 to be a dumbed down version of Sins with stupid menu designs.

Leave Sins as a PC exclusive title.