You should look further than the end of your nose.
Again, I saw nothing.
You can't wipe your ass or blow your nose in a country with a goverment like China or North Korea and they make damn sure that you know that and understand the rules.
"Suprise laws" don't exist.
Obscure ones, yes suprise ones, no.
Read the sentence again. I said they could
if they wanted to
You won't because you can't.
What is stopping me?
If your arguements were then you would.
This doesn't even make any sense.
Your going to have to do better than that.
Let me get this straight... you are saying I should be able to recite from memory the precise DRM and copy protection mechanisms of every PC game ever released? Is that right?
I'm not changing the subject, there is no need for anyone to be omniscient. It is not unreasonable for a customer to expect the vendor to have the knowledge to sell thier product well. You made a bad decision and shopped at a bad store, DEAL WITH IT.
It is utterly and 100% unreasonable to expect the salesperson to know the precise DRM and copy protection mechanisms of every PC game that exists.
Don't have to because they don't need to , all they have to need to know is if a game has DRM and or copy protection.
Virtually every PC game has those. Simply knowing that a game has a DRM or copy protection mechanism in place doesn't tell you anything about the nature of said DRM or copy protection mechanism. Likewise, knowing that a car has an engine doesn't tell you anything about what kind of an engine it is.
So I guess what you're now saying is that employees don't actually have to know anything at all, whereas previously you were demanding them to have inhuman levels of knowledge.
Besides you haven't even told us this magical store where you bought your used game.
Again, again and again: what could you possibly do with that information?
Ignorance is NEVER an excuse. It may be a reason from time to time, but it never excuses you from your own mistakes.
Again, in my hypothetical example it would clearly excuse someone from making a "mistake." Another example would be, say, a new company policy that the staff hasn't been properly made aware of. Happens all the time.
In my case it isn't about ignorance at all. SoaSE supposedly has no DRM at all
(that's what everyone keeps saying, and that's what I kept hearing), and the DRM mechanism is not described anywhere on the game's packaging. There was no way for me to be aware of the DRM.
You obviously didn't make an informed purchase, if you knew about it you wouldn't have, would you?
Again, I had no way of knowing about the DRM.
You let advertising and sales pitches that buying used is better to sell you on the idea.
What advertising and sales pitches? There was no advertising and no sales pitches. I went to the used games section of the store, picked SoaSE and took it to the counter. Are you unable to tell the difference between reality and your own delusional fantasies? I have no idea where these stories are coming from.
That would be the fault of the vendor.
Going by that logic, it's also the vendor's responsibility to ensure that the system requirements on the game's packaging are accurate. What nonsense.
Your largest concern is not getting "treated fair" by the "big greedy companies".
Where did I say consumer rights are my largest concern in life?
You also seem to lack any real world experiance.
Based on what?
You also wrong and don't seem to know it.
I'm confused. Are you trying to prove that I
am a kid, or are you trying to prove that you
are a kid?
You blame someone else for your problem.
I have explained at length why it isn't my fault.
You expect someone else to fix your problem.
Well obviously, since it isn't my problem.
You named yourself "epiclulz".
And? What is that supposed to prove?
Conclusion: you're making shit up.
For not having common sense.
Common sense doesn't mean what you think it means. Common sense does not allow one to ascertain the precise nature of any given game's DRM/copy protection system. Perhaps you are confusing "common sense" with "supernatural powers of extrasensory perception."
The CD is your property, the content is not.
When I buy it becomes my property.
I would also recomend that you become more of an informed shopper before you decide to make purchases on a game(or anything for that matter).
Once again, the only thing a quick Google reveals is that the game has no DRM whatsoever. Furthermore, the nature of the game did not make it a likely possibility that it would have the kind of DRM that it does.
I would recomend that you read the Monkeysphere (written by David Wong) it is a humor article but it really help you delve into your own mind and understand how your brain works and realise your own shortcommings as a human.
I would recomend that you read the 7 habits of highly effictive people (written by Stephen R. Covey) fantastic read.
I would recomend taking a small buisness course. Even if you never start a small buisness you will find skills that will help you alot in just about anything.
Well, this certainly is pretty... random? I'm getting the feeling that you aren't "all there."
My Opinion is that StarDock are in no way required to provide their services for people who have not payed for the game to the original creators. StarDock are not preventing you from ownership and use of the game they are simply not offering you the services (hosting for the online servers and updates) that are gotten by a customer paying to them.
What difference does it make to them whether serial XYZ-1234 is owned by person A or person B? If ownership is transferred from A to B, the number of copies that they have to support does not increase at all, and if they offloaded most of their file hosting to third party providers like Fileplanet it wouldn't make any difference who downloads the patches. Stardock just wants to kill second hand sales because they're greedy. Of course they can't really admit it, so they just make up all kinds of bullshit justifications for it.
Next I bring evidence to Crush you "Terms and Conditions argument". The two biggest Game retailers in the UK are "Game" and "HMV". They are next to each other on my high street and so I checked sins of a solar empire while down town this weekend. Both had a sticker informing me that by breaking the seal and opening the box I was agreeing to the Terms and Conditions available at the website. Said Terms and Conditions state that the Serials are non transferrable.
Laws regarding EULAs differ from country to country. Where I live, a shrink-wrap EULA has no legal power.
Bringing this to the table I would like to move that StarDock has not done anything out of the ordinary (Valve,EA dar I go on?) and has in fact been more lenient than some.
What Stardock, EA (to some degree) and Valve are doing is thus far out of the ordinary.
They have also acted fully within the law and have in no way deceived the customer.
Not informing customers about the crippling DRM that the game has is deception.
The fact is your point about it not harming anyone sounds an aweful lot like "victimless crime" epic. This is the line used by people who download games and in the end a company like StarDock cant match in size or power EA and dont have a lot but consumer revenue going for them.
Once again, I bought a completely legal and official version of the game from a store. I did not download it or get it on a burned DVD from a shady market in a third world country.
No your wallowing in your own one person "piss and moan" club.
No, I'm pretty sure other people, such as you, have posted in this thread too.