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Cykur
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Huge Number of User Actions - Ever Seen This?

March 4, 2009 5:23:12 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums

I just finished a game and I was looking at the stats and noticed that my opponent had made a little over 4 million user actions vs my 2000+.  I double checked the digits...it was 4 million plus.  I tried to take a screenshot, but sometimes my desktop graphics are scrambled when I get out of Sins, so I lost what was in the buffer when I rebooted.

Has anyone ever seen this before?  Most games I only do a few thousand user actions, and I'm usually on the high end of the scale.  I can only speculate how someone could get 4 million (automation?),  or maybe it is a bug?

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Foogsert
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Reply #1 March 4, 2009 5:49:49 AM
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I had a game earlier that said I had ~12 million actions (according to my friend - I had closed mine before checking actions), I didn't think to ask him to grab a screenshot though. I don't do any sort of automation, so my guess would be it's due to a bug.

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Reply #2 March 4, 2009 6:10:21 AM
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Yes I've seen this. It appears whoever isn't hosting has a huge amout of user actions

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Reply #3 March 4, 2009 6:58:09 AM
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Yes I've seen this. It appears whoever isn't hosting has a huge amout of user actions

 

In this case it was the host....I guess it is a bug then.

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Reply #4 March 4, 2009 6:58:59 AM
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I had a game earlier that said I had ~12 million actions (according to my friend - I had closed mine before checking actions), I didn't think to ask him to grab a screenshot though. I don't do any sort of automation, so my guess would be it's due to a bug.

 

OK, first time I had seen it, I wondered WTF is going on?

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Reply #5 March 4, 2009 9:01:01 AM
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Actually, it appears to be a client thing. These two screenshots are from the same game-

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/075c3976835791fa55bc9e595d85358d32841361.png is what I saw.

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/c879c0b120cc0bed23c5e6b07f79f04f8877394f.png is what my friend saw.

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Reply #6 March 4, 2009 9:30:29 AM
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Skynet is starting to take over.

Never did know exactly what user actions was supposed to be, we sort of just assumed it was mouse clicks.

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Reply #7 March 4, 2009 10:56:42 AM
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Maybe mouse moves?

If you have a touchpad=more still?

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Reply #8 March 4, 2009 6:18:54 PM
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There was a thread a while back on this... had a screenshot labeled 'Good Clicker'. The OP calculated it out to be something like a thousand actions a second.

 

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Reply #9 March 4, 2009 7:31:34 PM
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I have seen it again....just a new bug I guess.

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Reply #10 March 4, 2009 7:34:50 PM
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might be the koreans who are used to play starcraft i heard from a friend that they can make like 400 UA/sec vs average players 50 UA/sec

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Reply #11 March 4, 2009 7:45:14 PM
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Not actions per second, but actions per minute.  A typical mouse and keyboard system can't physically process 400 actions per second.  Typically, APM counts every click with the mouse and hotkey press, which I would presume is what Sins is counting in this metric.

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Reply #12 March 4, 2009 8:22:43 PM
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might be the koreans who are used to play starcraft i heard from a friend that they can make like 400 UA/sec vs average players 50 UA/sec

 

Hehe, as Darvin points out, it is per minute, and even that seems kind of fast.  I have seen video of Korean players in tournament, and the guys hand was epilectic on the the hotkeys he was tapping them so fast.  I can't compete with that, though I can't help but wonder how useful it is to button spam when things in the game only happen so fast.

 

That said, this is one of the reasons I like Sins and I don't know how excited I am by Starcraft II Multiplayer.  My poor hands can not handle the button mash fest super hi twitch  / hi user action games require.  Sins with Alloy speed boost almost runs too fast for me...I'm not as young as I used to be, and I don't need carpal tunnel.  Sins has a good pace and requires smart strategy as much as it requires micro.

Hopefully Starcraft II won't be all about the button mashing....

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Reply #13 June 28, 2012 3:22:37 AM
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It has to be a bug, on my game I used the game time to calculate that it reported two users had performed an action over 81,000 times every second.

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