I also stopped getting Mass charm. It's not needed except to stop the AI from teleporting all the time.

I agree. I've played with some guys who treat DG as a tactical FPS, with little overall vision of the victory objective of most games : destroying the enemy Citadel. They enjoy personal streetfighting too much, losing sight of the broader, strategic team-effort to achieve a victory objective. 

Of course, in a Slaughter match, killing DGs is the normal victory objective, but I've recently lost a match in an unexpected manner, which illustrated innociv's point.

It was a 4 v 4 Slaughter match on Cataract, with a 20-kills objective. All was going very well : my team had surpassed the 15-kills point, while the other team was stagnating below 10 kills! Normal Slaughter-match victory was assured. The other team, realizing that, shifted their strategic perspective : instead of intensifying their tactical fighting pace against us, they went for an alternate victory objective. Overconfident, we did not realize what was happening until it was too late. As we got the 19th kill, one less than the victory objective (while the other team still was below 10!), our Citadel was overwhelmed by a massive assault of heavy siege creeps. We lost! 

To stay on-topic with the Erebus issue, in one game, I was with a Regulus team8 who was obsessed with killing the most DGs he could (in a Conquest game!). He consequently took too many risks near the frontlines, and was himself killed over & over again by an Erebus who teleported next to his sniper position. He rage-quit after insulting me for my prudence : my TB had only been killed once -- by the teleporting Erebus! 

He must be moved to the Assasin side, this dude doesn't need minions to HELP him, he's fine on his own drinking blood that gives him 900 HP every 15 seconds or so.

Erebus is OP

OP is overpowered.

I agree Erebus needs toning down, especially at later levels, his attacks are insane as well as the bite, and can kill well with bat swarm. He's not extremely OP, only somewhat

I wouldn't mind erebus on the assassin side actually. Though people claim if you want to go with a damage build to go full minion... the minion AI and controls are pretty terrible. It certainly would help giving regulus the generic assassin tree so you don't have to rely on getting a mageslayer and 6750g gloves to make him viable late game.

Erebus is not op.

 I see him die all the time.

He, like oak, MIGHT be op in the hands of a decent player. But so can TB, Queen. Sedna. And even rook and Regulus.

I say its way to early to call for nerf bats.

First, too much people think about demigod as a team deathmatch game... but in a conquest mode the goal is to destroy the citadelle not kill the most DG. And the fact is as Erebus if you want be some killing machine you need lot of items and some rares... all the money spent in thoses items don't go in the citadelle. That can put your team in some troubles...

Secondo, most of my solo kills (when level match, not when my team win and i'm uber stuffed/leveled), are on noobish players that take too much risks. A reg in front line can be really in troubles vs Erebus. Now if he' stupid enought for play alone an don't stay with some support for cover him... he die not because Erebus is OP, but because his tactic is stupid.

An 'assassin' Erebus relying on his skills is really weak to silence/freeze skills. Remove the use of his skills an he can do nothing (until he get some rares, but hell like all DG. When your team begin to stuff with rare, if you havent forgotten to upgrate the citadelle, it's because you are near the victory generaly). Sorceresss why not open a fight with an erebus with the freeze touch that add +130% cooldown? With that Erebus cannot even escape. Then use your others skills and you'll be able I think to use again the freeze touch for the bonus damages. And team up with a dps dg for 100% kill.

The big disadvantage of Erebus is that it's a melee dg. Long range dg are better killers and have less chance to die, with erebus if you teleport and are stuck you're dead. Even mist can't save you if the other team play well.

15+ Erebus are strong, but at early levels so WEAK. I don't kow how some people can find that bite is a killer skill at begining. It don't match a fireball or a snipe for kill an don't match an heal or shield spell for keep you alive.

Now, I think a creep oriented Erebus can be better at early level. But there is really less tactics than other build. Here the mist can be really effective I think. Need to test it one day.

Heres a hint: An Erebus played properly can counter the living crap out of a regulus/TB. Regulus and TB are ranged and dependent on distance to survive and do damage. Erebus has one skill that shuts out this advantage, at which point if you aren't superiorly geared/leveled, he'll probably kill you one vs one.

The way you can beat this, of course is using fireball, fire aura and the AoE fire defensively. Stack move speed to outrun his slow, use fireballs to keep him at bay, and drop fire AoE's and kite them in it, and use your fireballs as he backs off, and he'll probably never charge you. This way, you out farm him, which in turn gives you better gear, more levels, and allows you to kill him much more easily.

Also, if that Reg is some kind of teammate, tell him to learn a new demigod. If you don't know him, well then good.

I have seen chris701 on many other forum posts complaining about Lord E being OP. Irony is when he plays Erebus he gets owned by pretty much every other class, especially other Erbus' which make him more mad.

I'd argue Erebus is made of less paper if you get the right gear (both early purchases and favor) and if he embraces his role of general can be strong (I.E. goes minions to get a high dps).  But yes, he does need to function as a melee fighter and bite helps that.

I have to agree with Inflames, a well played Oak player is a big challenge for Erebus.  In my match against the best played Oak I've seen -- the game was over by us both hitting level 12 (we were the two highest level Demigods in the match).  He was a better micro player than me and the fact that his minions are faster and fly are a huge advantage to him.  It alowed him to press/scout me out most of the time.  He also managed to seal the deal to winning the game due mostly to map control and fortress upgrades.

Which, brings me to the point that the game is about more than one demigod Vs another demigod.  Map control, fortress upgardes, gear upgrades (itemization and purchasing small upgrades and selling them for improvements) are all a huge part of the game. 

After that game like everyone else, I felt like Oak was very strong and for the first time in a while, it had me feeling like Erebus was a little weak.  It's a natural reaction, to think that who ever beat you is OP and that who you are playing is underpowered. I don't think Erebus is weak.  I think in that game, I was beat by a better player than me -- It wasent Oak's fault or Erebus's.

The power of denial has us all never wanting to blame one of the true reasons we loose -- which is that your opponnet was better than you.

While I was able due to bite + gear choices to take a flag from Oak in the early game I described above, it did not win me the game.