Why is it taking so long to apply mod?

You did something wrong and the game is in a loop.

hmm.. dang. I'll have to figure that one out. I'll just go back and add one piece at a time, hopefully that way I can figure out which one has the error

Keep in mind that if you are running Sins in fullscreen, the error popup sometimes appears "behind" the window the game is running in. Alt-tabbing reveals it, otherwise it looks like the game stalled. And usually if you do something wrong in the .entity files, you get a minidump. Logic loops are very rare, and personally I've never had them and I've broken the game a gazillion times during my modmaking.

Should be running in dev mode anyway You can easily check by checking your debug folder (which will generate massive log files if it's looping).

Yeah, I can never get dev mode to work I'll try fixing it up though, thanks.

lol, I have tried making multiple mods before, and either my computer sucked to much and it wouldn't load, or I have had about 5 loops out of 12 tries.

in my limited experience of modding sins, the usual cause of a looping effect is errors in entity files with the engine looking for a particular line having a particular text and the entity not having that text in it at that line.

I usually set the debug and logoutput to TRUE and use window mode, and with each error that occurs I edit the particular entity in the line with the first error and change it to what the engine wants, then terminate the engine and load again with the updated files

harpo

oh... would it have anything to do with me getting rid of the frigate factory line then?

... yeah that could be it.

Just to be clear though, are we talking about the line in the playerrace.entity?

yeah, I got rid of it to enforce me and my friends multiiplayer rule about there being no frigates.

from what I have read in the forum, the engine REQUIRES the frigate factory, but you might be able to disable it by increasing the costs and logistics slot requirements to levels above the planet avalability eg 80 logistics slots 100,000 credits 10,000 metal 10,000 crystal and also altering the galaxyscenariodef so that the factory is not spawned, but this is going to cripple the ai which requires the factory to be usable.

harpo

Will try that out and report back with the results, thanks. Or would it be better to delete the ships in the factory?

Ok, so rediculous costs for the stuff then. Thanks. I was originally hoping to get rid of the frigat factories and in another update add a new building. Ah well.

You can't remove the frigate factory from the playerrace file, but you can make it so that you can't build it. The best way would be to give the frigate an research prerequisite which you can't get such as a researchsubject from one of the other races.

btw exactly what did you mean with the frigate factory line. All you could do is just this for every playerrace.entity:

entities
 planetModuleInfo
  Page:0
   count 9 - change to 8
   entityDefName "PLANETMODULE_TECHORBITALMETALEXTRACTOR"
   entityDefName "PLANETMODULE_TECHORBITALFRIGATEFACTORY" - remove this line.
   entityDefName "PLANETMODULE_TECHORBITALCOMBATLABORATORY"
   entityDefName "PLANETMODULE_TECHORBITALTRADEPORT"
   entityDefName "PLANETMODULE_TECHORBITALCULTURECENTER"
   entityDefName "PLANETMODULE_TECHORBITALCRYSTALEXTRACTOR"
   entityDefName "PLANETMODULE_TECHORBITALCAPITALSHIPFACTORY"
   entityDefName "PLANETMODULE_TECHORBITALNONCOMBATLABORATORY"
   entityDefName "PLANETMODULE_TECHORBITALREFINERY"
  Page:1
   count 7
   entityDefName "PLANETMODULE_TECHORBITALGAUSSDEFENSE"
   entityDefName "PLANETMODULE_TECHORBITALHANGARDEFENSE"
   entityDefName "PLANETMODULE_TECHORBITALREPAIRPLATFORM"
   entityDefName "PLANETMODULE_TECHORBITALJUMPBLOCKER"
   entityDefName "PLANETMODULE_TECHORBITALSHIELDGENERATOR"
   entityDefName "PLANETMODULE_TECHORBITALCANNON"
   entityDefName "PLANETMODULE_TECHDEEPSPACEMINE"

yeah I did exactly that, removed the line and changed the count to 8.

That making it part of a research is a good idea. I'll probably make it an advent research since me and friends dont play advent.

strange, then there shouldn't have been any problems.

I'll try and test it myself.