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BlackHawk141
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Reply #26 April 13, 2010 8:35:02 PM
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Well... I've been kicked from games with new people because of my stats which aren't really that high. Funny thing is they probably would have let a smurf into their game and then been pizzed off about the result. Ironic really...

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Reply #27 April 13, 2010 8:46:29 PM
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Here is the tally so far with links to posts. If anyone can find older posts with a view either way, post the links here for a unofficial score.

Yes

Greyfox2

GoaFan77

ZOOMERS

myfist0

Qu4r

ChaoticMagician

Azrak_Navarion

 

 No

SwerydAss

Twilight_Storm

DirtySanchezz

Agent of Kharma

Myles

Mesha-Lenin

Princeofstar

 
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KL3MZ

Nightraid3r

Bluster23

Raging Amish

STARKILLER69

top vasari

-Ue_Carbon

Greg30007

DirtySanchezz

Scoutter

 

 From Posts

BlackHawk141

EadTaes

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Reply #28 April 13, 2010 9:01:36 PM
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Prince, you joined my hosted game earlier.  I hosted a bigger map since more wanted to play but you never joined back.  We ended up playing a 4v4 rather than a 5v5 because you never joined back.  I am not sure if it was this game you think you were kicked from or if there was another.  You did not get kicked from mine at least.  Keep trying though because people don't kick near as much as they used to nowadays.

Greg30007 stated he quit because of smurfing in one the the goodbye threads fyi.

 

[_]-Greyfox

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Reply #29 April 13, 2010 9:03:22 PM
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deleted, double post

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Reply #30 April 13, 2010 9:23:10 PM
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Greg30007 stated he quit because of smurfing in one the the goodbye threads fyi.

If you can find the link so people can read it I will add to list.

Added more to my list.

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Reply #31 April 13, 2010 9:27:01 PM
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oh ok thx, my wifi seems to be acting up, i nvr lag in online games   ehem, but i do dissapear becuase even though my wifi is real fast it can also break down pronto   but it doesnt happen often, maybe today was bad day and i lagged out

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Reply #32 April 13, 2010 9:37:54 PM
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I don't think the problem lies in smurfing. I believe the problem is that players don't want to have negative stats on their records. By eliminating all stats (except maybe number of games) people could start having more fun by playing and not caring that much for competition and losses.

In another post I think that DirtySanchezz said something about having the possibility to play ranked and not ranked matches, so everyone could be happy.

EDIT: check this out https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/366788

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Reply #33 April 13, 2010 10:40:07 PM
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idrc about rank, skill in game is wat matters

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Reply #34 April 13, 2010 10:57:41 PM
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Haven't been playing sins for 3 reasons:

1) life is pretty busy for me right now so I don't have time to play the long game no more.

2) SINS was a drug preventing me from doing the real-life things that needed to be done.

3) My gaming buddy does not have diplomacy yet.

 

But if SINS is getting fewer people now is in my opinion the fact that the Vanilla/Entrenchment lobbies where separated from the Diplomacy/Trinity lobbies. The community was fragmented into 2 and it is leading to it's death.

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Reply #35 April 14, 2010 12:09:14 AM
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Minds Eye

Protoplazm

the_Monk

Beric01

boshimi336

P5yy

Darvin3

Allegiance86

Qu4r

NWcityguy2

nathrite

msawdey

GeneralVeers

milo896

milo896

 

Some other names for the yes category. Some of them I loved to play with. But smurfing was never a major problem for the community.

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Reply #36 April 14, 2010 12:19:44 AM
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Links are to user names not the thread or reply link. People will want a little verification with the names. Above the avatar is "Reply #xxx". Right click and copy URL or Link Address. If you click on the names I have added, it takes you directly to there post. I always test my links when posted. Link to my list.

MindsEye

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Reply #37 April 14, 2010 4:18:34 AM
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Read carefuly i sad NO. Yes was a trol

This is getting ridiculus, haw can u say siddy quit cause of smurfing!!!

He was a proplazm of all smurfs, an ALfasmurf.

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Reply #38 April 14, 2010 4:34:03 AM
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GUYS THIS FORUM POST IS NOT A DISCUSSION POST, IT WAS A POLL, ALL I WANTED WAS A REASON IF SMURFING WAS A MAJOR FACTOR FOR NEW PLAYERS NOT PLAYING SINS, DISCUSS YOUR ISSUES ELSE WHERE, LEAVE THIS POST ALONE.

 

ALL I WANTED WAS A YES OR NO, THEN A REASON WHY.

 

Quoting myfist0,
reply 27
Here is the tally so far with links to posts. If anyone can find older posts with a view either way, post the links here for a unofficial score.


From Posts
KL3MZ

Nightraid3r

Bluster23

Raging Amish

STARKILLER69

top vasari

-Ue_Carbon

Greg30007

Cpt_Siddy

DirtySanchezz

Scoutter

Azrak_Navarion


From Posts
BlackHawk141

EadTaes


 

 

I asked for views of people who are commenting on the poll, not forum posts from before.

Quoting Z00MERS,
reply 35
MindsEye

Protoplazm

the_Monk

Beric01

boshimi336

P5yy

Darvin3

Allegiance86

Qu4r

NWcityguy2

nathrite

msawdey

GeneralVeers

milo896

milo896
 

Some other names for the yes category. Some of them I loved to play with. But smurfing was never a major problem for the community.

Sorry Zoomers, have they commented on this poll? nope, they have not.

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Reply #39 April 14, 2010 4:35:20 AM
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might have to start a new poll page.

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Reply #40 April 14, 2010 4:47:33 AM
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Quoting Greyfox2,
reply 6
Yes

I would imagine you having biased results of this poll, sunny.  You are asking mostly people that have remained despite the smurfing and other problems.  The ones that got fed up likely no longer play or no longer check the forums if they ever did.  It is a worthy attempt certainly.

[_]-Greyfox

This is true

I also like how you quickly updated your thread with the NOs but as soon as the YES people came it stopped. 

Make a new thread cause I have an idea. All the yes people create 10 or 20 forum smurf accounts and stack our team. ROFLMAO

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Reply #41 April 14, 2010 5:23:36 AM
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Yes.

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Reply #42 April 14, 2010 11:00:10 AM
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No.(Edit:sorry,I didn't read "major")
However it's one of problem in huge problem.

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Reply #43 April 14, 2010 6:02:52 PM
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GUYS THIS FORUM POST IS NOT A DISCUSSION POST, IT WAS A POLL, ALL I WANTED WAS A REASON IF SMURFING WAS A MAJOR FACTOR FOR NEW PLAYERS NOT PLAYING SINS, DISCUSS YOUR ISSUES ELSE WHERE, LEAVE THIS POST ALONE.

To be fair-leave your issue elsewhere too.  Your issue is smurfing and this post is a biased as you get.

Quoting Greyfox2,
reply 6
Yes

I would imagine you having biased results of this poll, sunny.  You are asking mostly people that have remained despite the smurfing and other problems.  The ones that got fed up likely no longer play or no longer check the forums if they ever did.  It is a worthy attempt certainly.

[_]-Greyfox

This is true

I also like how you quickly updated your thread with the NOs but as soon as the YES people came it stopped. 

 

I noticed that to---When "no"s showed up, bam bam bam, you put them in the post.  When "Yes"s showed up, nothing.

The only way to be fair is to have a fair UNBIASED question? MAJOR FACTOR +GIANT RED LETTERING=BIASED. Look it up.

Myfist did a great thing-linked to replies that showed that it has been a problem-EVEN FOR THOSE THAT DO IT NOW!!!

 

I must ask after seeing your joke of a "poll".  Are you afraid to admit that you may be wrong? Are you afraid to admit that smurfing hurt the community?

 

A fairer question is-In your opinion did smurfing hurt or help the community?

Vote hurt or help- tell us why?

 

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Reply #44 April 14, 2010 6:12:38 PM
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ill update as soon as I can, but at the moment, I got revision to do.

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Reply #45 April 14, 2010 6:18:53 PM
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Is the revision to make it an unbiased poll, if not, go here guys.

Poll. In Your Opinion: Did "Smurfing" Help or Hurt the SINS Community?
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Reply #46 April 14, 2010 6:51:21 PM
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Happy Now? I was planning on doing it tomorrow mouning, but thank you. Now, I wont collect the next set of results until tomorrow night.

 

If I made a mistake, please tell me, and I will correct it.

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Reply #47 April 14, 2010 9:08:13 PM
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Last ICO game I played, and I've stated this elsewhere as well, I got my HW connected to an Ice, Volcanic, and Dead asteroid, with a regular roid off the Ice so I had to start Civ in order to be able to get any planets. By the time I got the Ice world, 2 Skirantra and a pack of Assailants attacked. I didn't stand a chance. And I got blamed for the whole team losing, even though the other front was being driven back too.

This was prolly due to smurfing.People get very irritated when they lose in smurfed manner.They just wasted 1 hour minumum of their free time.Also it really matters not because you can know their exact strategy but their skill level.When making teams and comparing say you who may have 20-30 games played in mp and someone like quar who is smurfing with 15 games played.He really has played over 1000 games total.Can you not see the difference?You cant prepare for that.You will lose to quar then its 2v1.Knowing its quar may change your whole strategy for the game.I would know where to focus and who to help.THAT IS STRATEGY.No strategy to being sneaked up from behind and getting clubed.

 

I vote yes. I think was the main problem and I almost quit totally from it.

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Reply #48 April 14, 2010 10:19:06 PM
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No was not.

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Reply #49 April 15, 2010 5:12:19 AM
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Guys do u understand all this flood is like debating about haw one should eat an egg: from tin end or form fat

 

If u like spamm, spamm happily but if u want change, start flooding supports tickets.

Devs become democratic, they liste to the people (thankfuly they dont listen to their champion or else they would nerf my scintra )

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Reply #50 April 15, 2010 10:23:20 AM
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This from the person that griped about "bugged lums" every other word last patch.  Way to go for balance, quar!

 

[_]-Greyfox

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