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Ok, so I decided to create a new Chatroom, because the old one was getting pretty....old!  ;P

Everyone may post here, as well as in the good'ol Flameroom...I mean, Chatroom *_*

I would like to keep this Chatroom civilized. Well, as civilized as most forum threads are (doesnt mean that you all have to be polite like Oatesy, lol).

So for this reason, I may update the OP of this thread in the future, posting certain thread rules, as I see fit.

For now though, post away, and everyone is welcome! :)

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Currently these users are banned:

- ArcticBlunder

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Reply #1151 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Xer07, reply 1143
As for the Twin Towers, ofc I think it was wrong.
End of Xer07's quote

Than I can happily say that you are not a true nihilist, which makes you a much more interesting person.

Quoting Xer07, reply 1149
attacking the world's best equipped and trained army head on, balls out. They didn't
End of Xer07's quote

Actually they've been indirectly fighting Israel for a long time now. They bombed Britain though, if we're talking Western nations.

Oh, you meant that backwater "United States" colony. My bad.

 

Anyway, I'm glad to see that we all agree that the Twin Towers attack was a bad thing.

Reply #1152 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Whiskey144, reply 1150



Quoting Xer07, reply 1149but attacking Civilians is cowardly. If you want to make a point, you're going to do it by attacking the world's best equipped and trained army head on, balls out. They didn't, thus it was an act of Cowardice.

.........

I wouldn't go so far as to say it's cowardly, because it really is a valid operational consideration in a total war scenario, wherein two political entities are fighting for their very survival.

Seeing as how there hasn't been a total war since the Second World War however, current operational considerations consider civilian casualties a Bad Thing.

For example, would you call the bombing campaigns against urban areas in Japan and Germany cowardly? I wouldn't; those crews were indeed braving quite a gauntlet of enemy interceptors and some serious anti-aircraft artillery firepower.

However, the role of those campaigns were to not only demoralize the populace (not terrorize them, mind you), they were also intended to disrupt economic and productive operations. Effectively, the bombing campaigns were intended to demoralize the civilian populace, thus making fighting the war unpopular, as well as reduce or eliminate war materiel production capability.
End of Whiskey144's quote

 

Then again history is told by the winners 

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Reply #1153 from Sins Forums Top

Biased viewpoints certainly color accounts of such.

Reply #1154 from Sins Forums Top

Though to be fair I'm pretty sure that the intention behind the raids in WW2 didn't really have much of a moral justification beyond "if we kill enough of them we can all stop fighting."

After all, if you bomb their factories, they'll rebuild them, but if you bomb their workers, it'll be years before they replace them.

Of course, I don't think that the civilian populace should be targetted in such a way, but it's an interesting topic.

Taking the concept forward, looking at places such as Afghanistan and Iraq, if a civilian is helping the enemy, be it simply in keeping quiet, are they still neutral, or are they on one or the other side? What makes somebody in a non-conventional war an innocent bystander?

For example, if a village has supplies and weapons hidden in a house for the enemy, are they enemy too? Should they be treated as unarmed combatants, or as bystanders?

Reply #1155 from Sins Forums Top

I would say that if you have weapons in your house, you are liable to be suspected of being a terrorist sympathizer, not as an unarmed combatant, more like a biased bystander... :P

Deal with them by taking their weapons and watching their house.

In war, there are very typically no innocent bystanders. Everyone has an opinion, and they are usually not neutral in a dispute. Though you can't go up and ask them, as they will tell you what you want to hear.

War is a time of silence and hidden allegiance.

Reply #1156 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting KrdaxDrkrun, reply 1155
In war, there are very typically no innocent bystanders.
End of KrdaxDrkrun's quote

Sssssshhh...

The politically-correct folk will be listening in! You can't have opinions in times of war!

Reply #1157 from Sins Forums Top

They wouldn't do anything to me, as my opinion is quite harmless.

I just believe that we should nuke Iraq. Okay, not really.

I am kinda a pacifist, and I would rather that people wouldn't go and kill themselves in pointless wars.

Reply #1158 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Oatesy03, reply 1154
Though to be fair I'm pretty sure that the intention behind the raids in WW2 didn't really have much of a moral justification beyond "if we kill enough of them we can all stop fighting."
End of Oatesy03's quote

It was a bit more than that, insofar as it was also intended to drastically decrease enemy civil population morale.

Which it did.

Quoting Oatesy03, reply 1154
Taking the concept forward, looking at places such as Afghanistan and Iraq, if a civilian is helping the enemy, be it simply in keeping quiet, are they still neutral, or are they on one or the other side? What makes somebody in a non-conventional war an innocent bystander?
End of Oatesy03's quote

If they're simply keeping quiet, then I'd say it's a case of coercion; the civvies don't want to talk about whether or not there are insurgents there because they don't want to get hurt/killed.

Quoting Oatesy03, reply 1154
For example, if a village has supplies and weapons hidden in a house for the enemy, are they enemy too? Should they be treated as unarmed combatants, or as bystanders?
End of Oatesy03's quote

It depends; if the villagers are actively supplying the insurgents with weapons, hiding places, and munitions, then they're unarmed combatants.

If they are being coerced into doing so, then the status is somewhat blurry, but you can't really blame them.

That said, in asymmetric conflicts the line is very, very blurry.

Reply #1159 from Sins Forums Top

*sigh*

Xer0 \^/

Reply #1160 from Sins Forums Top

I personally didn't like the song

Reply #1161 from Sins Forums Top

And everyone is being lame and posting music videos.

Guess I'll join the party and make it awesome, with THIS!!11!:

Reply #1162 from Sins Forums Top

And THIS!:

Reply #1163 from Sins Forums Top

And THIS!:

Reply #1164 from Sins Forums Top

And THIS!!!!11!1!!11!!:

Reply #1165 from Sins Forums Top

And finally, THIS!!1!!1!!11!1!!11!:

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Yes, I did just post a Selena Gomez song. Shut up. She's talented.

EDIT: don't complain about any quality issues. Blame YouTube and the uploader.

Reply #1166 from Sins Forums Top

What the flipping heck?

I see a whole lot of stuff.

Reply #1167 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting KrdaxDrkrun, reply 1166
What the flipping heck?

I see a whole lot of stuff.
End of KrdaxDrkrun's quote

Well, I initially attempted to post all five videos in the same post.......which didn't work. So I quintuple-posted so that all five videos would properly show up.

Also, watch the videos, they're quite good. The fourth is actually a gameplay trailer for a mod, but the song is why I chose it.....incidentally, the video fits the song quite well. Whoever made it was very good, as they've synced the gameplay montage to be in sync with the beat of the song.

Reply #1168 from Sins Forums Top

If anyone has a facebook and play EDGEWORLD the game, join "Fighting Force Alpha", if it gets too full, join bravo, if that gets too full, charlie, and on and on, right now in sector one, Alphas full, in sector 4, its just me, but one of my members in sector one bravo started a bravo in sector 4, and the allaince is made for, if your attacked, we fight back. The other allainces that does the same, they don't protect you like us, also they attack people to get us to attack so you can join them, DON'T FALL FOR THE TRICK. Just join Fighting Force, and if you join fighting force in edgeworld, you can join our group on facebook. And I think I got the last post of page 47, if not, first post on page 48, YIPEE. I'm also the founder of Fighting Force. Its not about me, its about us, and i'm not forcing you to join, and we need your help, people are not lvling up and are not attacking anyone, they just sit there and watch chat, only 3 people are defending Fighting Force by attacking back, please if you join, fight the attackers.

Reply #1169 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Whiskey144, reply 1167



Quoting KrdaxDrkrun,
reply 1166
What the flipping heck?

I see a whole lot of stuff.


Well, I initially attempted to post all five videos in the same post.......which didn't work. So I quintuple-posted so that all five videos would properly show up.

Also, watch the videos, they're quite good. The fourth is actually a gameplay trailer for a mod, but the song is why I chose it.....incidentally, the video fits the song quite well. Whoever made it was very good, as they've synced the gameplay montage to be in sync with the beat of the song.
End of Whiskey144's quote
It looks like a thing from C&C Renegade.

[EDIT]

Dude, is that from a quake game?! also i'm talking bout the Hacked game thing.I love the quake wars, can't wait for another enemies territory game. If its ever gonna come, I know they got wolfenstien.

Reply #1170 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting 1kingbarton, reply 1168
*snip clan add for dumb MMO*
End of 1kingbarton's quote

Please do not advertise such trash here.

Quoting 1kingbarton, reply 1169
It looks like a thing from C&C Renegade.
End of 1kingbarton's quote

Fail.

Quoting 1kingbarton, reply 1169
Dude, is that from a quake game?! also i'm talking bout the Hacked game thing.I love the quake wars, can't wait for another enemies territory game. If its ever gonna come, I know they got wolfenstien.
End of 1kingbarton's quote

Fail again.

It's an Unreal Tournament 3 mod, and the gameplay is nothing like UT3. AFF:Planetstorm is the game that UT3 wants to grow up to be.

Now get out of the REAL Chatroom.

Reply #1171 from Sins Forums Top

Whoa, whiskey.  Calm down, It's Oatesy's turn to be attack dog today.  ;p

Although I agree, please don't enter random threads to post adds about stuff that doesn't belong here.  Join the room first, otherwise you'll just piss everyone off.

*Gets scoped pistol out of holster.*

Now choose, in or out.

*Pulls back hammer.*

:borg:

-Twilight Storm 

Reply #1174 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Twilight_Storm, reply 1171
Although I agree, please don't enter random threads to post adds about stuff that doesn't belong here.  Join the room first, otherwise you'll just piss everyone off.
End of Twilight_Storm's quote

Quoting Nygella, reply 1172
How do i get the theams in my docket so i can change the skins & baxkgrounds?
End of Nygella's quote

Quoting Nygella, reply 1173
i  mean background
End of Nygella's quote

What Storm said applies, very, very much to what you've posted. Because you're in the completely wrong place; try posting on WinCustomize, your login username/password combo will work on any Stardock site.

In the meantime, GET OUT.

Reply #1175 from Sins Forums Top

Not quite the same thing.  Yes, his question justifies its own thread, but he(?) wasn't advertising anything.  Mayhap you just scared away a new member...:P

Anyway, if you're still looking for an answer here Nygella, you need to be more descriptive, because I have no Idea WTF you're talking about and therefore cannot assist you.

-Twilight Storm