The Solanus Adjudicator definitely needs some work.

The Illuminator Vessel won't be viable with that plan, because beam weapons are currently at tier 3 along side the Illuminator Vessel.

The Iconus Guardian shouldn't be put in the main fleet, because Shield Projection is a channeling ability, meaning it can be interrupted by issuing new orders.

That doesn't sound like such a bad idea.  I don't see any reason why Illuminators should continue to require 3 military labs unless they get buffed/un-nerfed.

sorry, reduce beam to tier 2

I am a big time advent player, and advent is primarily my best and favorite race, i can win with them but i have to agree with this post 100%.  Advent is heavily reliable on crystal as a primary resource in its ships.  Not only that if your next to a tec player you really wont be able to out fleet them in an early game rush especially against a jav rush. The only thing worth tryin to counter a jav rush is going defense vessels, but then tec can go cobalts and its over cause the labs you need to get illums up to counter the cobalt makes you fall behind the tec player now some ppl would say just make disciples to counter the cobalts but thats retarded due to the fact that the other player already has a counter to that ship up and running with the javs and next thing you know as advent your on the defensive the rest of the game.  I'm not saying you can't survive against a tec rush as advent because you can survive but if your going against a skilled player it doesnt really matter how skilled you are your not going to beat them with out alot of feed or them being screwed with the map.  Now vas can stop tec with their sbs, and tec can stop vas sbs with the orgrovs but advent will be on the defensive if playing someone who knows what they are doing with either of those races.  Once a vas sb goes up the only option to advent is to go drones, but with the vas ability on the carrier bays to hold strike craft makes it impossible to beat a sb then unless you get Solanus Adjudicator building and you need to mass them to take out the vas drone bays.  So to counter a vas sbs basically advent need Solanus Adjudicator and drones and they lose over half the Solanus Adjudicator if the other play has half a mind.  so then when u hit the next planet you need to rebuild more for the next sb.  but tec only need to orgroves and ho's which are both cheap.  It kinda retarded how hard it is for advent to win any more.  I personlly think the idea of allowing Solanus Adjudicator to focuse on a target will resolve the problem with advent fighting vas.  As far as fixing being competative against tec as advent i'm not sure how to do that with out making advent OP again.  if you can get illums with 2 labs i think thatll bring back the illum spam and the only counters tec would have is scouts and defense vessels which is counterable by disciples and disciples are cheap and strong with cheap weapon upgrades which then will end up making advent OP'ed agaisnt tec and then tec players will be complaining because they will be on the defensive all the time.  But something def needs to change to give them a fairer fight.  Just my 2 cents.

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Well...now that illums have been officially buffed, I'm thinking they should be left alone for now until a lot of MP games have been played with them...

One thing I'd like to see is the Advent's metal and crystal technologies switched (crystal comes a tier earlier, metal comes a tier later)...

Honestly, I'd be wary of giving Advent a more powerful economy...Advent needs buffs to the adjudicator, domina subjugator, and needs some form of PM protection (either through shield techs or through shield projection are two solutions I'm okay with)...those things need to happen...

And if they did, Advent would have a much stronger mid and late game...which means the need for a better early economy wouldn't be as important...

Since military buffs to Advent need to occur anyway, I'd advocate seeing how those go before buffing Advent's economy...

if you would have asked me were Illuminators a strong mid-late game unit about a couple of patches ago, I would have said yes, but now I feel having a balance of Illuminators and destras is important late game.

The problem with using Illuminators and repulse is that Illuminator require you to be in the middle of an enmies fleet  to take full advanatge of all its weapon systems. By using repulse, your effectively wasting an Illuminator main advantage of shoting three targets at once, to shooting mainly off it main weapon.

HOWEVER, if you use repulse wisely, you can split an enemies fleet into 2 or 3 different parts and even there cap ships too, making it easier to get into the central of the fleet and destroying them in small chunks at a time. Thats probably the best tactic to use, but you need to make sure that the guardians get into the central of there fleet to split them up, and then push them further back and concentrate on small sections of the fleet one at a time.

By doing this, you can keep the Illuminator shooting advtnage, while for exmaple, splitting a tec fleet from there hoshkios and vasari overseers or even advent capital ships from benefiting the fleet.

U just simply can't spend all that much on frigates early game.. Its halcyons , civics and trade ports.. only use scouts to supplement halcyons to quickly colonize as many worlds and setup a trade chains. U need the credits.

Disciples can't survive assailants and carrier phase missile spam but they will be well off if more than 1 halcyon is in a fleet reducing weapon cool downs ,increasing there damage and also pushing bombers away and dealing damage.  Therefore you should be producing fighters to kill lrm and bombers.

The cool down from 1 halcyon affects the other so its the first ability i use. Helps the scouts deal more damage to siege and lrm frigates. 

I usually have as much as 3 or more halcyons ealry during colonising. Seems to work as i work my way up to repair platforms, then illums. <again u can only pull this off by scavenging every last penny for trade ports and halcyons and then scouts and desciples to back them up.  

Should u meet a starbase u can play cat and mouse with it, change production to bombers sting it to death. 

Halcyons is the only way to be safe early game. Prog is just suicide.  

From there on u r on your own. Either Guardians or Crusaders. Depends on which faction u dealing with..having both options is ok

u c theres never any clear way to get up and running. U must colonise fast.. but then that depends on your surroundings. If u close to an enemy ofcourse u gonna be mass producing desciples and get repair platforms straight away. If u in a good spot, colonize and setup an economy. Chaos theory ( highly sensitive to initial conditions) a.k.a butterfly effect.

Was playing with Advent again yesterday and after playing them for a few games, I can say, they are still broke.

Out of the 6 games I played with Advent, I was the only advent player in 5 games. And each player I asked said the same thing 'advent are broken' and I agree.

I honestly don't know what the problem is, but they are significantly weaker. The only way to actually win a game with Advent is getting a fleet bigger then the other guy, and playing Advent vs TEC, this is hard as TEC do have an economic advantage.

There having trouble fighting the Vasari too. The problem with buffing the Progenitor is that online play has now become a carrier infested first capital ship. If you don't build a carrier capital ship, your technically screwed.

I think some testing needs to be done in order to find more about the problems facing advent at the moment.

I'll be honest, I haven't saw a progenitor as a first cap for about 12 games, and he got crushed by two carrier caps.

but it is a good idea

Progen needs more HP and armor.  It doesn't do much DPS, so it should be beefier.

Indeed. 

Also I recall that originally Advent were conceptualized to have Desert Homeworlds.  In such a case the extra logistics required for teching would not be a problem.  However with 24 logistics at home, it is a bit of a problem :/  If advent had a desert home with 4 mines (2 crystal 2 metal) it would possibly synergize a lot better with the faction.