I'd have to say that if your supply lines are efficient enough that it doesn't cost you anything to maintain them, then you shouldn't be getting money for them once the pact is researched...

Real world application, however, there is always a cost because you need resupply ships, and you have the cost of the crews of those ships, the maintenance costs of those ships, as well as the cost of the supplies themselves...  I assume this is the cost of the upkeep for fleet supply.  The more ships you want in service, the more resuppliers, ports, and distribution depots you're going to need, and the more supplies you're going to go through.  In which case, optimization of these supply lines would, and should save you money.  If you were breaking even on your costs before the pact, you should make a profit for not needing to maintain all of the resupply ships you had before.

So to rationalize the new income, I'd have to say you're spending less on ships and crew in your resupply fleet since you can take advantage of your allies supply fleet, or if not that, then loaning out your extras to your ally to help cut their cost down, but the end result is you making money.

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Any news on the next hotfix?

I don't think he has...to be honest, I'm not sure with of these threads the devs even look at...for example, people have mentioned from the beginning of time that the text for LCs still indicates they field only one squadron...small issue, but it's been brought up sooooo many times and it would be so easy to fix...this string issue doesn't matter, but "small" issues like the black market pact do, and it'd be a shame if they got overlooked...

Can I no longer give 'Give Resources' missions to allies/enemies?

Playing as TEC, I got the tech that allows me to receive those mission types. But I can't give them, not to a 20/20 ally and not to a enemy with who I have 4.3/-0.3 relationship.

I've been experiencing two strange bugs since the hotfix :

- A minor but funny one : I was playing an open teams AI game, and at one point I took one vasari enemy planet that had mines, and then the infocard for structures on the planet said the minefields had like 261% health (and the color was one we never see on infocards, light blue/green...). I tried to take a screenshot but I can't find it (I think it didn't work). It did not affect the rest of the game as far as I know...

- One that is annoying : I live in Europe so have an azerty keyboard (with which the game normally works fine), and yesterday while on ICO it switched to qwerty ! I alt-tabbed the game to check in other apps and my keyboard was fine everywhere but in Sins. Restarting Sins switches it back to normal, but it seems rather frequent as it happened to me again in MP today (non-ICO) twice in a row...

I hope to find a solution to the second problem (well I can learn qwerty but I'd rather not if possible ), I am not sure if it's patch-related but it certainly never happened to me before the hotfix.

I guarantee you it can happen...I have had it happen in SP and have been able to reproduce it quite easily using the dev .exe...

I have a replay of a SP game on Point Blank where I did not use the dev .exe...I tried to cut the game in half so you'll only have to watch 16 minutes...put it on 8x till about the last 2 minutes, that's the important part...

I started the AI on unfair for 10 minutes, then reloaded with the AI on easy...I bombed their HW and destroyed all but one civilian structure...I also left one of their beam defense platforms intact...upon colonizing the planet, my first constructor immediately heads toward the nearby beam defense platform and begins to deconstruct it...it doesn't do very much since the turret takes it out fairly quickly, but there is a good 15-20 seconds where the constructor is clearly using its ability and the turret is clearly taking damage (and its not from my fleet)...

If you need the save file or want a different replay let me know, but here is the replay link...

I was offered a 'Give resources' mission by an AI player, but couldn't offer that kind of mission in return. I have the required tech (was playing as TEC), and so did the AI obviously, who was Vasari. I am quite certain of this happening, but will try to reproduce it and create a replay file, or some screenshots that show the situation.

What about the suspected issue with the destruction of ships not yielding negative/positive diplomacy points that Goa reported?  Is it meant to be like that?  Lack of sensitivity to combat and related actions was the main problem I had with the update, rather than the extent of the AI bonus, though the reduction might have been advisable.  The AI bonus should be capped at whatever the max rate the player can get for fulfilling missions is, as that is what it is supposed to balance?  Anyone know what that rate is?  Points for fulfilling missions decay over time, yes? 

We should get together and have a few AI games online sometime, anyone interested?  Something like 3-4 players and the rest AI up to 8, with a joint win for two players, might be a good test?

Finally I didn't check whether the diplomatic stuff shows up in replays now, has that been fixed?  It would make playtesting easier!

Realistically yes...problem is, since the default diplomatic status is war, you invariably must kill some enemy ships simply to stay alive...structures, SBs, and planets are one thing because in order to destroy those you have to go on the offensive (usually)...but with ships, you could be destroying entire enemy fleets in defense of your planets or simply to stay alive...

That becomes a problem if defensive actions have diplomatic repercussions....while maybe realistic, such modifiers would leave the military actions bonus/penalty more to chance than decision making...I can choose who I attack, but I can't necessarily choose who attacks me...

Not really sure if this should be one way or the other, but I certainly can understand why the devs would want killing ships to have no diplomatic effect...if they intended for killing ships to change diplomatic statuses, I'm sure v1.32 will fix this...

I don't think it's just the owner, its other factions too...it'd be like America getting ticked at Syria because it attacked Israel...now, that is logical, but with these game mechanics, if Israel attacked Syria but suffered losses, America would hate Syria more despite the fact that Syria did nothing wrong (it merely defended itself)...while that may happen in reality, in terms of game balance it's just not a really good idea...

No, Military Actions should be getting calculated immediately...

The code Goa is pointing to in the Gameplay.Constaints file is no longer used. Military Actions values for ships are now handled via a formula in-code.

This is very bad, Now in my mods, the new player generates many errors "Failed to convert '[PlayerName]AcceptMetalPact' to an enum value."

Does anyone encountered this, and is there any implication/solutions?

In other ways, i found no other errors... but if some modding possiblity like this are removed, it sucks !

I first thought so, and i started to re-create a new one, and even with just adding a new player file, with only a name modification, it does the same errors

so sad!