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pacov's League of Legends general discussion thread - strategies, etc

pacov's League of Legends general discussion thread - strategies, etc

I've locked/archived this thread/blog and have started a new discussion over here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/454943/

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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw :P ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906
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Reply #1526 Top

Quoting KrdaxDrkrun, reply 1523
Louist, what is your in-game name?
End of KrdaxDrkrun's quote

I believe it's mastalouist. Not the most mature username, and not one I really use these days, but it's not worth losing my champs and such in order to create a new one.

Reply #1527 Top

Quoting louist, reply 1526
I believe it's mastalouist. Not the most mature username, and not one I really use these days, but it's not worth losing my champs and such in order to create a new one.
End of louist's quote

For some reason, I think you get like 1 free name change... I might be completely wrong. 

Reply #1528 Top

not to my knowledge...

 

also

louist

I don't see a user with the name of mastalouist

Reply #1529 Top

I'll double check it this afternoon. 

Reply #1530 Top

Quoting pacov, reply 1527
For some reason, I think you get like 1 free name change... I might be completely wrong.
End of pacov's quote

i checked - I'm completely wrong.  1300 rp to change a name.

Reply #1531 Top

yeah

it's quite expensive XD

Reply #1532 Top

A vid showing syndra at gamescon

 

Reply #1533 Top

Ah! Seems my username is simply Louist. Hurray!

Reply #1534 Top

Quoting louist, reply 1534
Ah! Seems my username is simply Louist. Hurray!
End of louist's quote

well played, sir.  Mastalouist in my <3 though. 

Reply #1535 Top

Pacov

I posted that syndra vid already on the last page XD.

 

here's a better one:

 

:D

Reply #1536 Top

aw - sorry i missed that dax. Thx for the new vid.  I dig the effects - really curious how she plays.

super quick thoughts.  1 - played another ranked with jack and we got a win.  We had like a 1 week break or so.  Was nice to play again and dominate pretty easily.  I'm super excited to get to the 1700's as quickly as possible.  I feel like that is where we will start to actually hit matches that are a little more challenging - by that I mean that we don't win because of idiot players - we win because of good plays on our part.  That sort if thing is INCREDIBLY inconsistent. 

random bitching report - vlad's continuing to be super sensitive re: bitching.  Choose to sit out a game because he felt like he was going to be bitching in the next.  I bitched a small amount, but I think I'm in at a pretty tolerable level still. 

last thought - I really want to try to work on more jungle combos.  Anytime I go nunu top, we have quite a few strats we could try out and work.  Vlad and I tested out a combo tonight that will likely get 1st blood against most enemy jungles.  It requires a little practice, though, as nunu needs to steal some xp to hit level 2 with the jungler.  I think with some practice/rune changes, we could come up with some effective strategies.  I run a FULL support setup on nunu top and works exceptionally well.  That includes the XP bonuses, so I get a little more from the jungle creeps/sharing.  blahblahblah

Fun games tonight.  Thanks everyone!

 

 

Oh - and I uploaded a couple new vids to the youtube channel - 1 is live now and the other is uploading.  here's a link to my channel.

http://www.youtube.com/user/LeagueOfPacov?feature=mhee

Nothing super exciting, but probably of some amusement value and they are short.

Reply #1537 Top

I woke up at 2:30 am, couldn't seem to get back to sleep, so I decided to put the time towards a practice game with Akali. Despite a stunning lack of teamwork in all lanes, I managed to claim 27 of our 57 kills. I remember why I loved her so much.

A question: Are replays saved automatically, or do I have to enable them? I'd love to go back and take a closer look at what I was doing right and wrong.

Reply #1538 Top

Quoting louist, reply 1538
A question: Are replays saved automatically, or do I have to enable them? I'd love to go back and take a closer look at what I was doing right and wrong.
End of louist's quote

you need to download a client called lolreplays.  It's very simple to use and I typically just have it load on startup.  It will track every single game and can do so from spectator view (eg you can see the replay from any players pov).

Reply #1541 Top

Quoting OMG_Shiro, reply 1541
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvugzSQwaso&feature=g-vrec
End of OMG_Shiro's quote

 

Yeah I saw that a long time ago! pretty funny stuff

Reply #1542 Top

with the exception of my "let's try yorrick/zil bot lane" idea, here's a summary of a few of my games tonight.  "Pacov - I have a terrible idea.  Follow me."  (pacov follows).  "Pacov wtf, we died, what's your problem?"  Rinse and repeat.  Think I'm annoyed enough to make a highlight film from out last game. Anyway, thx for some of the games last night.  P

Reply #1544 Top

Quoting Koskee, reply 1544
hey nao... i didn't complain once >(
End of Koskee's quote

sounds like a complaint.  :) 

grouchy sad face... didn't have lol recorder running yesterday... X(

Reply #1545 Top

Reply #1546 Top

how did the yorick zil lane go?

Reply #1547 Top

Quoting KrdaxDrkrun, reply 1547
how did the yorick zil lane go?
End of KrdaxDrkrun's quote

It wasn't a good game to make any judgments on the combo's viability.  I flopped at mid through poor play and picking the second most blue reliant AP mid with an AP jungler who was keeping blue to themselves.  Yorick and Zil had a tough time getting on the same page for harassing but it wouldn't have mattered since they didn't have any high damage allies on our team to ult and keep alive... our team comp was a disaster.

Reply #1548 Top

I think its a viable combo, but we need someone more of an ad carry top - and jungle ganks for us intelligently denying the enemy team cs.  We had pretty much nothing good going for us.

Reply #1549 Top

awww

I am still convinced that it's the most OP lane combo ever...

Reply #1550 Top

thanks for games the last couple nights... I work the next couple days, so i'll see most of you on wednesday! <3 Swan