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pacov's League of Legends general discussion thread - strategies, etc

pacov's League of Legends general discussion thread - strategies, etc

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Well, I started a thread  back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike.  I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc.  Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.

Super fast background:  I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust.  Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me.  In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards. 

Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:

 New Player tips

  • Play the tutorial.
  • Consider picking up the starter bundle.  It's 530 RP (that's about $4).  You get 8 champs unlocked, a 4 win IP boost and a 10 win XP boost.  It's a pretty good deal (used it recently on an alt account).  You can find it in the game store under bundles.
  • Riot gives you 400 RP as soon as you hit level 5.  It's enough to buy some skins, a boost, or a cheap character. 
  • Learn to last hit!  Last hitting is simply landing the last hit on creeps.  If you last hit, you get gold for that kill.  The number of creeps you have killed is tracked in a value called CS.  You can see this number in the top right hand corner of the ui or by pressing tab.  Here's a really simple tutorial re: last hitting if you are brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LheiRB76x5g
  • Read some guides on any character you want to try out.  The recommended builds (what you see when you go to a shop) are not optimal.  The guides include item suggestions and skill orders.  These are very useful in learning decent ways to build characters
  • Use the rune combiner to get level 3 runes prior to level 20 if you like.  You will need 375 IP.  Buy any tier 1 rune that costs 15 IP.  You need to purchase 25 of these.  Click on your rune page.  In the bottom right hand corner there is a button called the Rune Combiner.  If you place 5 runes in there, you can get a random rune that is 1 tier higher (eg if you have 5 tier 1 runes, you will get 1 random tier 2 rune.  Anyway, the math works out such that you spend 375 IP ( buy 25 tier 1 15 IP runes) and you get 1 completely random tier 3 rune.  Some of the quintessences are 2k IP, so if you luck out and get one of those, you just won the lottery.  You can always keep the random tier 2 rune if you end up with something good and don't want to trade it out yet.
  • Consider setting aside IP for tier 3 runes (available at level 20 and above).  You can't purchase them with real money - only IP.  Keep that in mind.

Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends

pacov's misc info

Here's a guide I made

pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo

k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts.  I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so).  We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not.  Caveat complete.

Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role.  You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not).  You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2).  In my case, I'm good at support and adc.  I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops.  Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important.  If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know...  Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it.  I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.

Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles.  Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby.  Say "adc pref."  Do this as soon as you hit the lobby.  Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it.  This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request.  If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref."  In my experience, you generally do not want to call support.  It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible.  If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you.  If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win.  You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.

Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo.  If you solo, you have to rely on yourself.  IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo.  Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good?  That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit.  The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3.  If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect.  When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles.  Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works.  Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles.  Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker.  For example, Bryff is a good mid.  If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered.  In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing.  Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game.  Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support.  If you want that, you can usually get it. 

How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do.  And this is really what I do on a regular basis.  I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.  For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads.  So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw.  I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw :P ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ).  Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI.  Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc.  Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out.  Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself.  So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots).  If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game.  Then, do your best.  Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role.  And keep in mind what you need to work on.  For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth.  That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid.  The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team.  So, best to be ready for it.  Put your time in and practice roles. 

One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked.  1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want.  Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT.  2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support.  It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc.  I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL.  People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.

 

Lol King profiles for ranked tracking

I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them).  Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time. 

Snapshot updated 05/28/2014

 Character guides

Mid Ziggs by cow - http://www.lolking.net/guides/7906
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Reply #1601 Top

da fuq did they just patch?

Reply #1602 Top

a lot of the times they put in skins and stuff from PBE into the live client before it's released (or even only parts of the skins) so that the patch is smaller when they do patch it. 

 

Split it into 3 30 MB patches of content then 10 MB of balance changes rather than 1 100 MB patch with everything

 

Reply #1603 Top

well, if you watch streams and want to punch all of the douche bags that spam pal requests to the streamers, looks like a new feature will be released soon to suppress those messages

http://i.imgur.com/Jlukp.jpg

 

Reply #1604 Top

another change on the latest PBE - graves ult is getting nerfed a little with regards to the cooldowns.  Nothing super over the top. 

Reply #1605 Top

Gragas' ult

not graves

Reply #1606 Top

ah, you're right - i misread. 

 

Syndra

There is an issue embedding Syndra's champion select sound. The sound file can be viewed here.

Gragas

  • Explosive Cask [ R ]: Cooldown is now 100/90/80 Seconds (Up from 90/75/60 Seconds)

Graves

  • Collateral Damage[ R ]: Tooltip wording has been changed. Now has says "enemy champion" instead of just enemy.
Reply #1607 Top

I'm leveling up one of my other accounts to 30 for season 3 - add me and join me from time ot time if you like.  1cheesuscrust1.  I'm like level 25 or something to that effect.  If you are looking to dick around and try w/e, join meh.

Reply #1608 Top

I only add alts if they add me first. :hugme:

Reply #1609 Top

:P  Playing another in 5 min or so.  Updating pbe now so I can't log in.

 

KAT is getting a buff - I think they are overdoing it, but we will see alot more kat's mid if this goes live (on pbe now)

Katarina

  • Bouncing Blades [ Q ]: Now deals 60/95/130/165/200 (+0.45*AP) (Changed from 50/85/120/155/190 (+0.5*AP)) scaling on the mark for this spell is now (+0.15*AP) (Up from (+0.2*AP))
  • Shunpo [ E ]: Now deals 60/85/110/135/160 (+0.4*AP) (changed from 40/70/100/130/160 (+0.4*AP)) and now takes  15 % reduced damage (down from 20%)
  • Voracity [ Passive ]: Now reduces all cooldowns by 15 seconds (instead of just Death Lotus by 10 and refreshing basic ablilites.
Reply #1610 Top

I'm home again, and will try to get some practice in. Otherwise, pacov, if you're online with your alt, feel free to invite me. I'm always down for screwing around.

Reply #1611 Top

Quoting louist, reply 1611
I'm always down for screwing around.
End of louist's quote

 

That's what she said!

 

:D

Reply #1612 Top

:P

I got your friend invite louist.  I won't be on until later tonight, but if I see you, I'll shoot you a game invite.

Reply #1613 Top

I wont be around tonight, but should have time for a few matches most nights this week.

Reply #1614 Top

Quoting pacov, reply 1610
  Playing another in 5 min or so.  Updating pbe now so I can't log in.

 

KAT is getting a buff - I think they are overdoing it, but we will see alot more kat's mid if this goes live (on pbe now)

Katarina

Bouncing Blades [ Q ]: Now deals 60/95/130/165/200 (+0.45*AP) (Changed from 50/85/120/155/190 (+0.5*AP)) scaling on the mark for this spell is now (+0.15*AP) (Up from (+0.2*AP))
Shunpo [ E ]: Now deals 60/85/110/135/160 (+0.4*AP) (changed from 40/70/100/130/160 (+0.4*AP)) and now takes  15 % reduced damage (down from 20%)
Voracity [ Passive ]: Now reduces all cooldowns by 15 seconds (instead of just Death Lotus by 10 and refreshing basic ablilites.
End of pacov's quote

That looks like a nerf to me

Reply #1615 Top

I enjoy the 1984-ish "scale now on the mark for this spell is now (+0.15*AP) (UP from (+0.2*AP))"

 

Reply #1616 Top

I sent you an invite on a couple of my alts, pacov.  Al Walker and that power ranger blue one is me.  I'm gonna add it on swan too, so i can see when you're on that one, so i can hope over.

 

BTW: I will only be on after 11pm est until next monday.  I'm working everyday until a convention i'm going to this weekend, so i should be gone for that too unless my hotel room has nice internets.

Reply #1617 Top

Got some invites - not sure how much I'll be seeing you with that 11pm est schedule tho

onto other news...

 

MLG regrets to announce that we will not be awarding 1st or 2nd Place finishes for the Summer Championship League of Legends Event. We have determined that there was collusion between the two final teams, Curse NA and Team Dignitas. This is in clear violation of both the letter and spirit of MLG’s Official Pro Circuit Conduct Rules: “competitors may not intentionally Forfeit a Game or conspire to manipulate Rankings or Brackets.” As such, both teams have been disqualified, and no placements or prize money will be awarded.

Riot has agreed with this decision and, in accordance with their Season 2 rules on Unsportsmanlike Conduct, will not be awarding Circuit points to either team.

The 3rd and 4th Place teams will receive the prize money and Circuit Points they have earned, and all other results stand. No 1st or 2nd Place will be awarded for this event.

 

Reply #1618 Top

that schedule is only for a week, but wtf happened with curse v dignitas? 

edit: they really did an aram game 1? 

Reply #1619 Top

I don't care enough to actually look it up, but it sounds like match fixing.

Reply #1620 Top

Quoting Koskee, reply 1619
that schedule is only for a week, but wtf happened with curse v dignitas?

edit: they really did an aram game 1?
End of Koskee's quote

I think they did last game.

Reply #1622 Top

Since I'll be trying to play with arranged groups, I've been experimenting with different roles. Usually in solo queue I would play a pretty narrow selection of of pretty heavy-hitting champs, namely Ashe, Akali, AP or AD Yi (AP Yi has to be one of the most fun champs out there!), WW and Jax. So right now I'm focusing on Janna for support and Mundo for tank. 

Janna is interesting. She has no real healing, which makes her interesting. I'm still getting the hang of her. Placement and timing are perhaps more important for her than any other champ I've played, as she hasnobly the one targeted soft CC, and it's never really as important to level as her more, say, difficult abilities. 

Mundo is hilarious. He's a big damage soak who's constantly scream and yelling funny one-liners. Learning when to initiate, when to sacrifice myself to let the squishies escape is my top priority. Again, he's got no hard CC, which makes commanding agro tough, but I'm still enjoying him. 

But if the team wants a good burst ninja, I'm pretty damn comfortable and even competent playing Akali. 

Reply #1623 Top

Ugh, these forums play hell with iPhone's auto correct. I try to get the odd spellings fixed, but a few keep slipping in!

Reply #1624 Top

Been playing GW2 lately

so no LoL for a while :D

Reply #1625 Top

yeah - my lol time will be taking a hit as well.