Yes, the anti structure units.

In the games I have tried so far, they are immensely over powered. A few of them wipe out a systems defenses normally pretty quickly, but now they do the same thing to capital ships and titans. And just just one at a time. They wipe out groups of capital ships from range.

Yes they are fragile, but they were consistently killing targets before they could get into range to shoot back.

The AI if fond of bringing a dozen of them at once or more. They aren't limited in the way capital ships are. The other ships engage only a couple targets at a time at most (depending on facing). These are hitting multiple capital ships with apparently equal effectiveness.

I couldn't hardly get a capital ship to level 3 or 4 with the way it's setup and the AI wasn't doing any better. I don't recall seeing a single capital ship that was over level 4. I can only guess the anti structure ships were wiping them all out before they could get further.

I didn't even realize they could hit the smaller ships too.

I used to really like this mod till this single specific change killed it for me. It would have been nice if this was a mini-mod instead of a suddenly "on no matter what" item.

I usually play capital ships only on hard or very hard and did not yet run into the described problems.

It was much fun playing Sins again, but in my personal opinion the game ran worse than my last game. It has/had hickups every now and then. Could be the new W10 Insider though, looks like big changes for Game Mode.

Those minimods could be making a difference. We cannot guarantee a balanced gameplay experience if you use minimods. We typically only fix truly game breaking exploits (invincible units, free planet upgrades etc) with them.

• Expanded Research means the Advent will theoretically get +60% damage bonus and +60% rate of fire on Plasma weapons, including those used by the Solanus Adjudicator (AKA Plasma Stars).  This gives them one of the largest damage boosts of any weapon type.
• Max starbase upgrades and more tactical slots suggests you could be a very defensive player. If you have a lot of planetary defenses, the AI maybe reacting to that by building more antistructure cruisers than normal, which is quite reasonable. 

Solanus Adjucators do deal a lot of total DPS, but they can only focus 1/3 of their firepower on a single target. 2 more targets will be hit, but the exact one cannot be controlled. It may prefer to target capitalships in open battles though because the antimodule plasma weapons only do more damage to titans and space stations.

I am thinking of reducing the antimodule damage against some key targets, but regardless the best counter for this is to have a force of faster light frigates or corvettes that can quickly close the range and destroy these ships. Light frigates deal the most damage of any unit to antimodule cruisers while Corvettes are also pretty good, take less damage in return, and are even faster.

Ideally I would like to have antimodule cruisers essentially serve as a long range artillery unit/siege engine. Their barrages can devastate large, slow targets (mainly titans and defenses), but are extremely vulnerable to agile smaller ships that can quickly dispose of them. I don't claim that the current balance values are currently creating that, but I like to think it's a step in the right direction that will make these ships a useful but not invincible tool for any commander.

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They were a useful tool before.....

Just lost 6+ capital ships inside a minute to what would have normally been an easy fight.

That is after blowing up quite a few of them. Simply doesn't work. They take awhile to kill, even for a dozen or more capital ships and in the time that took, the swarm of them kill the rest before they can even retreat.

I did enjoy this mod before this change but after going through this frustrating again with the bombardment swarm, I'm giving up on the mod. Good luck.

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If it helps, if you open the Gameplay.constants file and change these lines to the ones below, antistructure cruisers will basically deal no damage to anything except structures.

DamagePercentBonus:ANTIMODULE:CapitalShip 0.01
DamagePercentBonus:ANTIMODULE:VeryLight 0.01
DamagePercentBonus:ANTIMODULE:Light 0.01
DamagePercentBonus:ANTIMODULE:Medium 0.01
DamagePercentBonus:ANTIMODULE:Heavy 0.01
DamagePercentBonus:ANTIMODULE:VeryHeavy 0.01
DamagePercentBonus:ANTIMODULE:Module 2.0
DamagePercentBonus:ANTIMODULE:Pirate 0.01
DamagePercentBonus:ANTIMODULE:Titan 0.01

It's a problem with Rebellion 1.93. It tried to be backwards compatible but a few things are still broken. For the best experience I recommend reverting to Rebellion 1.92 via the steam betas tab if you can. There will be a new version of the mod when Rebellion 1.94 comes out.

With the beta out I'm sure it will be soonish.

And it's not that simple. I have not updated because 1.93 broke some features of the mod beyond what us modders could do to fix them. Rather than remove content for a few months, I would rather tell people to revert to 1.92 for now and wait until 1.94 to release the update for minor factions.

Everything seems to be working great on my end.  I am also using a handful of your Mod Mods with it.

Thank you.

Quick question GF. -Did you add the pirate owned titans?-

I keep trying to enable the mod but get a runtime error. 

This application has requested the runtime to terminate it in an usual way

The mod only adds a few units to the pirate base, such as some defense platform, mines, and a "Pirate Captain" capitalship. This will make it a bit harder to take, but it shouldn't be a huge jump in difficulty from vanilla. What kind of fleet are you using that is getting killed?

Worth noting if you can defeat the pirates, you can capture a building that will let you recruit a Pirate Captain yourself, so the reward for doing so has increased to match the extra difficulty.

That's somewhat intentional, even in vanilla, probably to make up for the fact they have crazy phase missiles and can send a fully upgraded starbase to attack their enemies.

I do not believe this mod gives them any more fleet supply than vanilla, besides the "Heroic Valor" tech that mainly refunds the fleet supply useage of hero units.

Again quite deliberate, Corvettes are a counter to Titans in vanilla, but antistructure cruisers were almost never used compared to carriers with bombers. In this mod they are sort of long range artillery that does more damage the bigger and slower the target is (with small frigates taking almost no damage).

In an attempt to reduce lag, the stats of strikecraft have been increased, but carriers have been made equivalently more expensive. That's why they are 30 fleet supply, since 1 squad of strikecraft is more powerful than vanilla. Fewer squadrons, fewer carriers, same strike power, less lag.

I have the mod, and i love it.

I also use the more research and the Endless research mods. And there is a problem with the first it gives you double the research so instead of 2 levels you get 4 levels.

I have encounters a problem.

The Advent Loyalist (don't know about the rebels) get decreased damage taken on planet bombing, in combination with a rellic they have 100% decreased damage taken, so you can not kill there planets...... This in combination with there titan that can Grab plannets that you can not reclaim is game breaking

I have taken a look ath the mod filesthey have a starting bonus of 20% reduced bombing damage taken.

So this + thé research and the planet Artifact is enough to make them unkilleble