Internet trolls, a study

No.

Err... idk... I am pretty sure we all done some trolling in the past before.

Yes those "entitled gamers" are the worst. Like me with gamefly. I bought games through Direct 2 drive and Gamefly bought them out. Now I cannot access 16 of the 19 games I purchased that I for some reason feel entitled to.

Of course Customer service gives me the run around.. probably complaining to each other about that entitled gamer who keeps bugging them about accessing his games. Why on earth would anyone be entitled to access what they purchased?

I think we have different ideas on what an entitled gamer is.

"Ah come on, you are asking him to TRY AGAIN, knowing darn well he will get the same 'error' and NO download? Why don't you just tell him the truth. WHY don't you tell him he will NEVER be able to download any UKMIL file if he does not JOIN (ie: contribute $9.99) and become a member? You REALLY don't believe your own 'double-speak' and deceptive, 'half-truth', 'pitch', do you? Cheesh.
Sure, he is (supposedly) NOT paying for the model (the model is FREE) but paying for the bandwidth it takes to keep the files (at the ready) (for MEMBERS) to download. Hello! (Ever seen this: ''Free Download-FREE 30 day trial Period-Upgrade to 'Pro' for $XX.XX, etc''? It's the same thing. But I guess there is (REALLY) no 'free lunch'. Chuck B Napamule   "

Last 'trollish' comment I read ---- fortunately [for him] not here...but on a Flight Sim Gaming site.  Listed age - 71.

Soylent Green is the only solution.....;p 

You might be in the wrong industry if they bother you that much.

I doubt it's  'bother' as much as incite curiosity ....like pulling the wings off a fly to turn it into a 'Walk'....;)

What makes these 'creatures' tick? ....;)

Who is the entitled gamer? I've seen the term thrown around but I've not seen the definition. What do they feel they are entitled to?

That was my point but I wanted to vent about the gamefly situation.

People wonder why I refuse to agree to contracts which allow them to no longer give you access to your purchased products at any time, this is why. I used to be wary of DD, now Digital distribution in general is dead to me until I see some legal obligations for them to provide me access to the games I purchase rather than legal speak saying they have no obligation to do so. (like we currently see in EVERY digital distribution service)

Sorry most of that was an off topic rant.

Often the 'entitled gamer' is just someone who wants things their way or no way.  Of course if you call an 'entitled gamer' on that, they very often simply say "well I paid for something so I'm owed.....etc. etc. etc.".

The reality is, there is so much that is in fact priviledge which is these days being peddled as right that I think it's no longer just a question of the 'entitled gamer' but rather entitled society/culture.  We bred em, now we've gotta deal with em.......

Yes shame on people for expecting to receive a product or service they paid for.

Could be these people

Fistalis...I think you have just exemplified 'entitled'.

Remember...you can always buy a car...but its purchase does not also buy you the right to drive it.

Digital Distribution/sale is no different to any other purchase 'contract'. It has inherent limitations...be they warranty and/or copyright/trademark restrictions.

Government Legislation provides for Consumer protection on behalf of the consumer.  If and/or when the 'legal speak' violates consumer law it can be challenged/revoked/amended.

Where did I say they didn't or shouldn't receive a product or service they paid for?  I said "they feel owed...etc. etc. etc.".  Meaning besides what they've paid for......you know........having a sense of entitlement beyond that/which to one has right to?!?

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lol....jafo.....always a click and a tap faster with the replies than I.........must be getting old over here......hehe 

Wait I'm an entitled gamer for expecting to be able to access and play games I pay for? Really Jafo. So paying for a product or service and expecting to be able to access and or use that product or service is entitlement?

So if you pay your Phone bill you shouldn't expect to use the phone? If you buy a chair you shouldn't expect to take that chair home and actually sit in it?

So the only thing we should be entitled to is having our money taken. So its totally acceptable for someone to take money from consumers.. then remove access to the product they paid for?

(as for your metaphor, buying a car does give me the right do drive it. Just not on public roads, a more apt metaphor would be buying a car doesn't mean the car dealer can't come and steal it back)

Really....where things 'go wrong' is the take-up selectively....responding to a 'part' of a comment while seemingly oblivious to the rest of the comment.

Entitlement is the presumption that you have a right to drive simply because you purchased a car.

The purchase [of the care] also does not entitle you to demand changes to that car simply because it's [now] yours.

You complain about Digital Distribution as if it is somehow violating your rights as a consumer.

Were that the case there would be NO 'Digital Distribution' of any kind - anywhere.

Oh...stop editing....you cannot be responded to correctly/appropriately when you alter your posts....;p

Your right I complain about it.. because I paid for 19 games, 16 which I cannot access. Have not been able to access, and have no promise of being able to access. Due to the legal speak in subscriber agreements that are present in every digital distribution service.

Got to make sure I'm clear, they don't change my point so much as refine it.

OK...an example of a claim of 'entitlement'.

Back around '99 or so when Windowblinds 1.0 was released I arked up at paying for the proggy BECAUSE I was "a skinner" who skinned the product and thus provided a service TO/FOR Stardock and therefore SHOULD be freely given the Program in return.

I wasn't young [just younger]...I wasn't naive...I wasn't a troll.  What I was was 'entitled'.

I also had a fuck-wit attitude.

I grew out of it...;)

In fear of opening up a tome - sized saga of man's inhumanity to man .... what transpired that you cannot 'access' those 16?

Gamefly bought out Direct 2 drive. Leaving direct 2 drive customers without access to 90% of their games back in January. With the Assertion they were "working hard to transfer over the games to the new client, However some older games wouldn't be ported over"

Now were in march and most Former direct 2 drive users are still missing a huge chunk of their games, and gamefly pretty much refuses to comment other than "Were working hard on it and in next few months you should see many of your old games return"

Any questions to customer support is met with a canned response.

Come on jafo I thought you kept up with the crazy stuff that happens in gaming.

Although to be fair.. all the major sites that usually talk about these types of issues have been strangely silent on this one.

Edit:Forgot  My favorite part.. they sent an Email telling people to download their games just incase prior to the transfer. But deactivated the activation servers, and the Old installers no longer work, and refuse to provide CD keys for many games anyway so even if they did it wouldn't be possible to install them.

So pretty much a large chunk of people have lost access to games they purchased, have no clue when or if they will ever get access to them and its all pretty much legal due to the subscriber agreement which states they have no obligation to provide users with access to anything.

I don't play online games...however I do 'quite a lot' of game purchases/addons via online access - digital distribution.  Yesterday it was yet another 3 gig of 'addon' for FSX {Flight Sim Ten] ... being obtained 'digitally' I have not just installed it but backed it up to a secondary drive ...as archive-installer AND 'opened', and along with purchase receipt and keys, etc.

Standard procedure...as is the case with my TechNet subscription.

If it's an online game 'server' that goes belly-up that's much like all those 'cloud' storage options.... if you ever use them you NEED to expect loss.

Direct 2 drive isn't an online game server.. it was a digital distribution service like steam or Gamers gate. It was launched in 2004.

 To put it into terms more people may understand. Assume steam was bought out in january and you lost access to 90% of your steam collection.

Assuming you knew that though. Your stating that any digital purchase should be expected to be a loss? Why in the world would I purchase a game from a digital distribution service if I can assume its going to be eventually lost? or buy a game thats tethered to a 3rd party service for that matter.

Also backing the games up would do no good since they Deactivated the Activation servers for their digital distribution service. Basically what happened was exactly what I feared when Gamestop bought out impulse. Surprisingly gamestop handled it well in comparison.

What were talking about is the fact that digital distribution companies are under no obligation to continue to provide access to your games, the activation servers, CD keys etc. In this case it was gamefly buying out direct 2 drive which caused it. But it could happen for any reason at any time, legally speaking and there is nothing we as consumers can do about it because in order to even buy the games (or in some cases in order to install the games)we have to agree to the subscriber agreement which gives them the right to do so at any time for any reason.

Eh, I normally rage against the entitled gamers.  But in this case, I agree with Fistalis.  That's a load of shit, he should have access to the games he purchased.  All the talk of "you should have backed it up" is bullshit to me.  But then again, I am probably a troll of some kind.

You so know that you would punch them, Brad.