This is a feature that was promised, and i will be very very angry if they dont eventually make it in.

that said... the devs are prolly getting all the game bits in now, and will get this stuff in later.

hopefully.

Thats exactly my point. Many people explicitly pre-ordered the game because of the promised multiplayer options. I dont really care if Impulse is sold or not, but if a company promises a matchmaking system, for me its a core feature of the game.

For me its clear, if no matchmaking system is implemented in the final version, I will write an official claim and demand my money back. Fortunately this is very easy at paypal, they have a very good customer care policy, if you buy something via paypal and you dont get what you payed for, paypal will return your money immediately and then they ask for a refund from the company. On the other hand this can cause major trouble to stardock, because steam is a respectable brand, so stardock wouldnt risk to upset steam with displeased customers. So I hope everything will be solved in the final version and a matchmaking system with a ladder will be implemented.

Yes of course it takes time to develope a functional system. But it was promised as a feature of the game, so its normal that I have been disapointed to see the old multiplayer lobby when I started the beta.

I think in the last two years, some games have set a high standard on a multiplayer interface, for example League of legends, Modern warfare series, EA sports games or Starcraft 2 via battlenet. Therefore i think a matchmaking system in pvp and coop multiplayer is a "must have" in every modern game that wants to be sucesfull.

From my point of view, I will wait for the final release of this game and if no functional matchmaking system and ladder will be provided there, I will reclaim my money because i didnt get what i payed for / what was promised. And I think many people will do the same.

I really hope stardock will manage everything until the release because i love Sins and I want to play it against other people. But i dont have the nerves to search for players in lobbys or in forums, that would feel like a huge step backwards.

I guess the basics of what people interested in MP expect or had the impresion would be coming with Steamworks would be at least a basic matchmaking feature - a way to get games besides searching for pre-set up custom games. Most RTS with MP have this as a basic feature along with a points (elo) based ladder and matching against equally skilled opponents. Was basic matchmaking never actually planned or thought about in the move to Steamworks? If not, how come? Steamworks offers this and most RTS use it. I know there are some things about Sins that would make a matchmaking ladder harder to implement (all the game setting variables would have to be narrowed down/defined as "the matchmaking standard" to use) but many of us would like to know if some way to get games beyond joining public games will be included in MP.

These would be my request

1. ELO system, or another simple ranking system

2. Able to auto download mods and maps when joining a game

3. Clan system

4. Quick play (automated process to find a match and play 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, 5v5 with friends/clan)

Along with 2 which at least made it to your list?

Yarlen are you kidding me? Are you seriously offering me a multiplayer lobby and asking me what else do i want? Of course i want a button to get me together with other players, but not randomly ffs, matchmaking is not about random opponents, matchmaking is about playing against equal opponents. The easiest way is an ELO point system, but if this simply wont work in sins - there are various other ways to do it. Its your job to find one.

You promised us matchmaking and now after we all spent 40 dolars, you are telling us there will be a lobby and steam forums? Would you people call it a fraud? I probably would.

My simple request would be:

1. Quick play (automated process to find a match and play 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, 5v5 with friends/clan) - thats essencial

2. Simple ranking system, must not be ELO, a simple ladder based on win/loose ratio would do it.

3. Clan system

4. Possibility to reconnect to a multiplayer game, when I get a minidump or disconnect.

This are the basics of a modern rts game, i dont see a point of releasing a game without it.

Yall are forgetting the basic requirement of even having a competitive game.

Even. maps.

(militia counts, rock counts, neutral counts, planetary bonuses, artifacts)

Though, if and AND mod sharing is introduced the players can get around to doing that, but... usually for an ELO system, 'custom games' are usually left out for ranking...

I know about the MOBAs, and i think SC2 supports it, I am pretty sure there are more.

While sins is a long game, with up to ten players, so disconnects are frequent, and the ability to rejoin a game in progress would be a fantastic feature, it is not a requirement for competitive play. 

and.

we do have autosaves for non-competitive games... and people who are friends can rejoin in that reguard...

but... 

This would also prolly be a very very hard feature to impliment i would imagine, and MUCH EASIER features, like... balanced/fair maps... I feel are MUCH more important at the moment.

(now, ANY ranking system, no matter how shitty, should take into account a drop somehow... your ranking updated as a percentage of the game you were in... if you dropped 1/2 way though, you earn 1/2 a win or 1/2 a loss, depending on who won, if you dropped right before your team was going to gg or the enemy team was about to gg, you earn 99.5% of a loss or win, so that you cant cheat the system.)

Okay I thought I was missing something. Just making sure.

I dont think stardock needs help by programing a simple ranking system, i am affraid they dont want to do it and thats the problem.

But to get to the topic again: there has been a clear promise for matchmaking in Sins Rebellion, everybody can google the statement, so if Yarlen is saying there will be the old lobby and some steam comunity forums - thats ridiculous.

We all payed for the game in advance, so stardock now has the budget to add this promised features to the final game. I cannot stress it more - i am a competitive player, i play pure pvp so i pre-ordered the game only because of the matchmaking feature. There is no point playing the game for me if there will be no proper multiplayer interface.