This has been discussed a lot on this forum and the general consensus seems to be that its problematic. On one end its silly to kill a titan and see it at the same lvl 10 minutes later. I does feel like a usless venture to kill them. The flip side is that in late game, especialy in multiplayer, he (or she) who losses thier titan first loses the game, and thats a bad place to boil a game down too. Worse than that, the lvl 6 ability of the Advent Rebel Titan would be really dumb (Ive advocated the nature of the ability be changed anyway) as you only get to use iot by losing your titan and being back to square one. Comprimises sugested range from, have iot cost more to build the higher lvl it gets, to have it lose a couple lvls, but not all, so it hurts but at high lvl doesnt completly screw you. Also ive seen it sugested that you can have a actual spawn time, where you cant rebuild the titan until the timer is up. I think any of these could go a long way to making it a little less weird...

I can meet ya half way with the level being cut back when it's rebuilt. I also like the idea of the higher level your titan was when it died, the longer it takes to rebuild.

I just don't agree with the way it's setup now is all.

Which is why I suggested to research an increase in level keep up to 6, enough to keep your ultimate if needed. This further decreases the impact of losing it later into the game and at the same time keeps frigates as viable counter early on.

A lower level titan still has a chance to win against a higher level one given the right situation. In a 1 vs 1 titan fight that's not the case, of course. But with a protective fleet that's a whole other deal. If it is fully possible to kill a titan even without another titan (frigates in numbers drop it pretty fast actually) I don't see the problem if you might get a small penalty in losing the titan. The whole ordeal with the leveling being kept was about how frigates would just feed a titan and players could just suicide them into enemies to level up.

The hardcoded limit at level 4/6 makes them a reliable counter again, imposes a viable earlygame/lategame penalty and still keeps titans as viable option lategame. A level 10 titan is about 40% stronger than a level 6 one, that's managable unless your titan is everything you have (in which case you are pretty much screwed ).

Edit: oh my typos

Clearly this means the Advent are going to rule the world because the Progenitor Mothership will enable an Advent player to re-level their titan instantly. I'm ok with this but the rest of you lot might want to think it over.

It's been said so many times I don't know why we keep going over this.

"A Titan should lose one level and have no progress to the next level upon being killed."

This punishes higher level more than early, maintains them as a threat and if you want you can throw in the increased build duration but I'd say that should only kick in if the Titan is above level 6 because their ultimates are where they really start being dangerous (unless you're an Advent rebel).

Uh, don't point at other fiction to prove a point you can easily use real world analogues with.

Titans keeping their level is a dumbing down of the game, pure and simple.

That goes for the Devs and those of us stuck with the decision.

Havent heard any reason from the developers why for the first time in Sins, a unit gets to keep its level after being destroyed.

People need to stop complaining about it, it's here for a reason. And it is an investment to get a titan. If you win a fight with two titans in it, the titan who didn't die gets the experience and possible level up the time it takes to rebuild the other titan is punishment enough. This mechanic does not need to be changed.

The same could be said about capital ships, yeah? Not a good point to defend the cause with. Instead of using analogies just use logic, if you even lose one level by the death of a titan not only do you have to rebuild the titan and gain back that level. But your opponent just got alot of experience from killing that titan and is continuing to gain experience a best, and is still ahead at worst.

The titan system is fine people.

Do you want to know why Titans keep their level? It's because when they were being designed and everyone said BIGGER IS BETTER they actually realised at one point that they couldn't fit any more weapons on to it but still had tons of space left over. So one clever chap said, "well this whole losing your level when a capital ship dies thing is really annoying so let's include these newfangled things I just invented called 'escape pods' in all that leftover space". So that's what they did and the rest, as they say, is history.

Okay fine mr smartass NovaStalker lets go with that. However this should actually be implemented as a game mechanic for Titans and not left as an imaginary explanation for a fictional universe in a video game. It is a great idea but needs some expounding upon and I would be all for it. For the record I am fine with Titans as they are but would also be fine with a mechanic that enables the Titans to keep their levels.

How about just ass, then? Cause that attitude you showed there was neither professional nor helpful .