Comma's alone do not count for punctuation. Additionally this wall of text made my eye's hurt after the first run-on sentence. Sorry, no cookie for you!

You have to admit, he (She? I have no idea...) does have a point...

Rebellion has two groups of problems: bugs and game balance...

It is reasonable I think to say that all bugs (or at least the vast majority of them) should be fixed before the final release...SD clearly is focusing their attention on trying to stamp out bugs and make sure everything at least works, and I think that set of problems will be more or less solved by June 12th...

Game balance is different, however...first off, SD is completely, 100% incapable of making a well balanced game without banking heavily on player feedback...that is the point of a Beta, but a Beta can only do so much...

Really good balancing takes a very long time to accomplish (we are talking months and months and months of continual player feedback and vetting), and it just isn't feasible to postpone an official release on the sole basis that the game balance isn't perfect...

The concept of diminishing returns really comes into play here...SD can release a game June 12th that is 95% finished, or they can wait 3 months, get more player feedback, and release a game that is 98% finished...or they can wait a year, and then release a game that is 99% finished...since perfection is virtually unobtainable and close to perfection takes a really long time to achieve, it just isn't reasonable for SD to delay their release of Rebellion much longer than mid-June..

I'd like you to consider some other very successful strategy games such as Civilization V or the Total War Franchise...these are games with larger player bases, more MP, and far more resources than SD or Ironclad...it took months since final release for updates to truly balance these games (or at least get them where they are today)...in fact, Firaxis is still balancing Civilization V despite having an expansion pack slated for next month...

Even with all the resources that Firaxis or Creative Assembly have, they still have yet to solve all the bugs for all the OS and hardware configurations out there...it is truly a monumental task...

As it currently stands, Diplomacy v1.34 still has glaring balance and gameplay issues despite being out how long?  And you think more time is magically going to balance Rebellion?  SD will never have Rebellion perfect, never...and it comes to a point where waiting longer just doesn't have the return benefits to justify a postponed release....

I agree...that they even bothered to try and revive the game with Rebellion is testament to that...

i'm not talking about balance i'm talking about eye sores thats on most of the ships and stuff, but balance is a good thing to but my rant was pretty much about bugs and stuff go to elementalmaster.deviantart.com and i'll show you guys what i'm talking about.

Hows about they fix poverty in the world, fix all the diseases and fix me a King-size bacon double cheese burger? Why can't they-cos there only human. The best you can do is keep sending them desync, bug data with saved game files and dumb(lol) files to the email they provided.

and no one gives a shit about how you feel..just how and when you submit development data. how can the game be rushed when its till in beta you (I then refrain from typing what i was thinking of a few seconds ago).

We keep reminding fools that this is a BETA, and we will keep on reminding them until doomsday. They just don't get it. It's yet another Nay Sayer troll post. If you haven't already figured it out from the bad spelling, bad grammar, and the unnecessary excessive use of foul language.

In a BETA you point out specifically "What the problems are". "Where you see these problems", and "When do these problems happen". So that the developers are made aware of them. So the developers can eventually fix them. Constructively! In a civilized way!

For example you say the Advent, and Vasari Titans have a huge "gash" on them. Perhaps a screenshot of the issues might help? Same for the "clipping" you see.

You pre-ordered the game so that you had early access to the BETA. The mistake people like this make is that they expect a fully finished product when they download it from Steam.

Instead of Bitching, and demanding refunds perhaps you should do like what the EULA says for the BETA, and TEST it. Make a detailed list of any problems you find, and Report them. In a civilized way.

You see everyone wants something different and it wont all be done

Desync is clearly a big issue as it will drive people away from online play .I dont play online because its too rush orientated

Really since im involved in the beta they could delay final release for a year and not bother me -however given the choice i would push for final rebellion release now/today let the team take a rest for a day (dont want them to get too relaxed ) and then get them all hard at work on that sins2

After reading this thread this is the first thing I did:

And I left it at that.