Galactic Civilizations II had that feature too I believe. At least you could customize what goes on on planets.

I have Shogun 2, and I would like more features from that game brought into the next Sins sequel. Planet bonuses that give ships better stats, not artifacts but improved armor alloys and experienced gunnery crews and all that. Planet slots to build things on the planets after you capture them, so you dont just capture, forget and move on. I dont think it would take away from the Sins experience, but let you micromanage stuff better.

And this IS a 4x game, idiot.

Wow now you've hurt my feelings with that harsh language dude.

Most 4x games are turn based - so I was referring to those. They incorporate tons of things like random events, unique discoverable bonuses, etc. that some of the people in this thread are asking for. Yes, Sins has some minor elements of these 4X games, but basically, at its core, its an RTS with a little 4x tacked on. None of these 4x turn based features would work in terms of MP balance, which is all I care about personally at the moment. Random events, good or bad, while they add flavour to the world in TB 4X, would be hilariously bad for MP balance. Imagine playing chess, and then it's like - oh so sorry, random event - your queen is ill and cannot move for the next 10 turns...

Sins does have artifacts though which sort of count as random events, although in competitive games you generally could not afford to search for them unless you were already easily winning. I guess it's the same old dichotomy of SP people would love more 4x flavour, MP people would hate it and just want what is good for MP balance. Looking at Sins as a 4x in comparison to other 4x is totally wrong imo though - it's far too shallow to be compared to those others so that's why I wouldn't consider it one. If you had to put it in the camp of Endless Space, Gal Civ, SotS, MoO, etc. or of Supreme Commander, C&C, Age of Empires, Starcraft, etc. which one makes more sense? It's an RTS, get over it.

What am I getting over? I just made a suggestion and you told me I shouldnt play Sins. 

Wow. A member of the forums makes a suggestion of what he feels would make the game more interesting and you assholes tell him to go play a different game...

You guys who play online rush through the game just to win, avoiding all the small nuances that make this game great.

Thank God, I play single player only as the multiplayer crowd seems to be a bit more rude and immature ...

Khezef, I agree random events would make this game world more alive, maybe for Sins 2 some of the artifacts could be random world events instead of just discoveries.

I'm going to have to say, if that's the game style you want then go an play one of the slower paced 4x games.  Personally I cant stand having to sit there and baby sit a planet on each and every upgrade.  its so tedious and time wasting and frankly bores the hell out of me.  all I want to do is capture it lay down the defense I want and a few other building and move on to the next planet.  all that micromanaging crap is for the birds.  Ive tried every space rts sim out there and I always find myself right back here looking for more Sins.

Sorry, but Sins is perfectly designed and it works great.

Regardless of the fact, what kind of game Sins is, i sincerely hope, that for Sins 2 there will be wider, more richer selection of neutral factions beyond Planetary Militia and Pirates. Something like minor races in Star Trek BOtF or those subfactions in Emperor: Battle for Dune (Space Guild, IX, Sardaukar, Fremen...) - simply additonal NPC factions, which you can fight or ally and gain some specific and unique benefits from that. Would make the game feel more "lively" and rich, and yes, i think its definitely doable for RTS game like Sins, it just a further development of Pirates/Militia idea.

Yeah, more neutral factions for Sins 2. And to have them have at least one unique ship would be awesome. What would be even more awesome is if when you captured their planet you could build that ship at the planet or at a very hard to kill shipyard in orbit.

I love single player too.

I think the thread´s author is right.

Playing in huge maps is somewhat boring to me because there´s nothing more interesting but making lots of ships and conquer more planets.

I just think that as a game single players play Sins more as a rpg and can take our time .....

Multiplayers seem to just want to win..above all else.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to start setting up trade routes......wait a minute...  

The thing is, in a competitive multiplayer game, the fun tends to get taken out of it.

Example: When i'm fighting the AI, i might send a few kol battleships through the star to make a surprise attack against an enemy in concert with a pirate attack.  On the way there i see a long line of trade drones and so like any depressed gothic twenty two year old, i just have to stop and blow them all up with rail guns.

In multiplayer, all the fun little things you can do with the game are sidelined in the face of a triage of simultaneous invasions and counter invasions (mixed in with the occasional frigate spam)

Im not saying that multiplayer is boring, far from it, but sometimes you just want to feel the pleasure of tormenting your enemies.

Multiplayer is not lacking in strategic nuances, but it is lacking in one important thing.  Time to enjoy what you've wrought.  To have an extra tactical advantage in the form of friendly AI's and unique ships would only allow the game to be more fun.  In multiplayer those allies could be placed equidistant from players to keep the balance of power fair.  I belive that having something like this would help make the game even better by breaking up the monotony of countering.

Sorry about the rant

I know you are speaking just from your point of view, but personally, for an RTS, especially one without a campaign, the fun starts in MP for me. Playing vs. the AI gets old really quick - too easy and predictable. I want to feel the adrenaline of going up against a human mind that knows how to adapt and outsmart in order to push my own abilities - otherwise, they just remain stagnant and dormant. It's a mental stimulation, brain plasticity, and pleasurable neuro-chemical type of thing.

I understand SP is more about relaxing, taking your time, enjoying the view, getting a sense of immersion, etc. I totally get it and I enjoy this myself....in other games. If you get this from Sins, great, but for me Sins SP is lacking those things and only really shines in MP. I say this completely ignorant of any mods out there though, so if there are mods that would add the depth that really good SP games have, that's cool too.