Evolution for Dummies: Chapter 1 A little Ameoba was swimming around one day, and wished he could go on land. But he had no legs. Poof... a million years later, legs popped out of his single cell. Now the ameoba crawled onto land. But he couldn't see anything, so it did him no good. I wish I could see, thought the little ameoba. Poof... a million years later, an eye appeared. Wow! This is awesome, thought the little ameoba. Is that a "girl" ameoba over there? He walked
[quote]Wow, this must be a new record for these forums!!This thread has nothing to with Sins, but it have already reached 10 pages in three days. And people are so stupid. They invoke the right of freedom of speech, only to use it to attack the other person and tell him to shut up. It's so stupid.Lets see if by next friday this thread has reached 30 pages.[/quote] Thats what I mean. Freedom of Speech... UNLESS you disagree.. UNLESS your speech includes the word GOD. Then it's "shut up".
[quote]Forgiven,Although I'm an atheist, I firmly believe in freedom of religion. You have every right to believe whatever you wish, as do I. It's when we start interacting with other people, when we start saying that our beliefs are the truth and everyone else should agree with us, that these arguments arise.So, the question then isn't, "What do you believe?" but rather, "Why should I believe what you believe?" So I'll ask, why should I believe the Biblical account of genesis? You say that you'
[quote]Can you tell me exactly WHY mixing the right proportions of hydrogen and oxygen together makes water? Why does it always make water.. why hasn't that "evolved" into making something different?I cannot read your responses anymore. Please understand evolution before you try to debunk it.[/quote] Please try to understand God before you try to debunk Him.
[quote]He isn't hiding. He is just waiting for people to seek Himby "him" mean the all powerful "GOD", then what if he or she doesnt want to be found, so no matter where we will seek, we can never find this master of hide and seek, cuz he knows all the best hiding place. as a personal note: we have already seeking him from the dawn of the human life, and i dont think we are winning.[/quote] I found Him. It was easy.
[quote]So why am I a troll? I stated my opinion. Your opinions are of the sort that you believe people in the 1400s generally believed the world was flat and that molecules can evolve. Or something. Not really worth arguing.[/quote] I was just using that as an example. We were taught in school that people in Columbus' time thought that the world was flat, and that they were afraid that he would fall off the earth if he sailed that far. It is believed by many, including myself, that
[quote]well if this is the best "god or gods" can do,then i can understand why "god or gods" hiding from us. [/quote] No.. this is the best MAN can do. We are not God. Some claim to be, or claim they are better than God... some even think they will become a god (little "g" on purpose)... but all my posts have been written by a ME... a mere mortal. He isn't hiding. He is just waiting for people to seek Him.
[quote]Biblical literalists will believe what they want.Evolutionary believers will believe what they want.One side might be right, but do you honestly think anyone is going to change their stance based on a INTERNET FORUM? I'd give up if I were you.[/quote] I am having way too much fun. ;) Anybody want to start another MAC vs PC thread". That one seems to get heated as well!
[quote]No, it's my opinion that if people don't know what the hell they're talking about they should stop posting regardless of ideology or political beliefs. Troll harder.[/quote] So why am I a troll? I stated my opinion. A few disagreed and responded. I responded back. It's call a conversation. People discussing a topic, giving thier input, listening to others, etc. Don't like what I am saying? That's OK. Give a reponse. Don't tell me to shut up. By the way... I STI
[quote] Stop posting.[/quote] So in other words.. you want me to shut up... to silence me, if you will... because I do not buy into your rediculous evolutionary beliefs. That is a typical response from liberals. I haven't once asked someone to stop posting on this subject. I didn't start this thread. I didn't post until several pages into this thread. I feel like this has been an excellent exchange of ideas. I am in the minority, but that is OK. I don't mind at all. But as long
[quote]I seriously dont get why god and evolution MUST be mutually exclusive! Evolution doesnt deal with the aspect of god whatsoever. People decide that the two are at odds, the theory and science behind it has nothing to do with god. Science and religion should not be at odds with each other, it is the people that have taken them to odds with each other. Tell me something in the bible which specifically states that evolution cannot exist! SPECIFICALLY not the literal 7 day application. I dont
[quote]Carbon016This is incorrect. Evolutionary theory predicts a number of things. For example, whales are really, really related to hippos. We validated this through molecular testing (DNA analysis) and lo and behold, later found fossils that linked the two orders. Evolutionary science makes tons of hypotheses. We can also observe evolution at work on the laboratory, as well as the moth example presented earlier. Evolution is not that slow of a process, really.Evolutionary theory also led us t
[quote]Who/what created God?I have stated that multiple times...No one can answer that question. That is far back as anyone can go.How can you claim to know the origins of the universe but not what created your "God"?I'll post any more responses tomorrow, but I've gotta go now.[/quote] How can YOU claim that it evolved, when you can't even answer the question "how did it begin in the first place? You evolutionist have NO answers. At least I do. Believing in God as an Intelligen
[quote]Please answer my "Space Shuttle" analogy. My answer is that someone had to DESIGN and create the shuttle. It just didn't "evolve" from a bunch of parts laying around.Space Shuttles aren't alive... therefore they cannot undergo evolution. However, you could probably create a program to mimic evolution and "produce" a space shuttle like creation. Sorta like NASA's antenna here.[/quote] Thanks for making my point.. So if this scenario will NEVER happen to a machine, how could it pos
[quote]"We are back to square one... who/what created the quark?"Who/what created God?[/quote] I have stated that multiple times... No one can answer that question. That is far back as anyone can go. But to think that [B]"what is here has always been here"[/B] requires no thought what-so-ever. That, to me, makes no sense. How can something be, without being designed and created? EVERYTHING that man has made had to be designed and created, no matter how simple it is. And NOTHING
[quote]First you'd have to prove God created it. Maybe it has always been here..[/quote] I am still trying to wrap my arms around such a ridiculous answer. [quote]you can't decide on a question.[/quote] My question has been the same... How did life begin? [quote]Answer1: Ok, quarks.[/quote] We are back to square one... who/what created the quark? [quote]Answer2:Why? Who says everything can't spontaneously come into being without a creator. You see, fo
[quote]So in other words... you can't answer this.Go figure. Typical cop-out.Exactly the type of thing I figured you'd come out with. Why would I waste my time and energy? You've obviously made up your mind about evolution, despite the amount of evidence supporting it and despite the fact that there is no other viable explanation that is supported by evidence. No matter what explanation/argument I bring up about the origins of life, it will be a wasted exercise to go on for post after post with
[quote]So.... tell me WHAT they are going to use "from SCRATCH"...Not my post but I would guess stardust.[/quote] Sorry... already created. You have to start from NOTHING.
[quote]STILL doesn't answer the questionDid you give up your sense of humor with your reason? It is no trouble at all to "NOT accept an intelligent designer". Especially since I could have designed things much more intelligently. Anyone here need their appendix?[/quote] Who says that the appendix didnt' serve some purpose while you were in the womb? This is no answer. Just another cop-out explanation. And to say that YOU could design a better human... better get busy, but remember... i
[quote]How did life begin?From the sound of it, it seems they are getting very close to creating life from scratch. Give them 10 or so years. Once this happens all of the nonbelievers will still be nonbelievers anyway, so no point in talking about it.Just wait till we develop non-carbon based life forms, we are the the point where most of us are not in need for religion to explain to us what has happened and why things happen.Hell, maybe eventually the human race could be called "god".[/quote]<b
[quote]But who created the aliens?No one created them, they just always existed outside of time (not that anything outside of time can not always exist). They used their advanced technology to insert themselves into our time stream, but lacking the reasoning capabilities we have developed to understand such things as cause and effect, they prompted crashed into that volcano the other poster was talking about.[/quote] STILL doesn't answer the question. COME ON! Give me an answer
[quote]So... how DID life begin?Give it your best shot.Do some reading on your own. I'm not going to get into it on an internet thread with you because I'm quite certain I know exactly how you're going to react.[/quote] So in other words... you can't answer this. Go figure. Typical cop-out.
[quote]Aliens crashed onto our planet and their souls came out of a volcano in Hawaii. Or something like that south park episode. Anyways, cant you people just play spore and be happy? You get to use evolution and intelligent design in this game. Wow, they combined both into a fun game.[/quote] But who created the aliens?
Evolution is like the "Global Warming" [U][B]SCAM[/B][/U]! There is a "consensus" on both of these, therefore, it is declared and taught as Science. Wasn't there a "consensus" back in the 1400s that the world was flat? Truth is, you cannot prove Evolution, nor can I prove Intelligent Design. Which makes more sense? I like what Ben Stein said to the "professor" in the movie... (I don't remember the exact quote) [I]"But how did life begin?"[/I] So... if evolution is o
