[quote]Yeah I know it's a bad example, I had philosophy in college back in 2002. But my point still stands. All logic isn't sound logic and just because Sciene does use logic does not mean that Logic = Science.[/quote] "Unsound"? Maybe that was the name of the flaw? It has always been my opinion that if it is not a sound argument, it is not really logic. It might be an attempt, and formal definitions may include it as "bad" logic, but to me that like saying a cold-blooded do
[quote]Dun wrry it all gun b k. u c i can send u teh extnal flappie drive![/quote] Reading that made my brain hurt. :SNIFF!: Now, if only I could find the million dollars for shipping...
"It rains every time my weekly prescription arrives" would have been the correct conclusion, assuming that when it rains on Tuesday, it rains all Tuesday long.
[quote]Logic can easily be false. Here is a decent example of false logic. A. If every Tuesday it rains and B. My weekly prescription comes every Tuesday, then C. Every time it rains my weekly prescription arrives.[/quote] Actually, you have a flawed argument. Your conclusion wrongly assumes "every Tuesday it rains" implies "it only rains on Tuesday". I can't remember the exact terminology for the flaw in your argument, I think it is either "invalid" or "not cogent", as it has
[quote]1. Move and shoot is possible, but it takes some micromanagement, if any unit could move and shoot by default, hand-to-hand units would never stand a chance unless they were a lot faster than shooting units, and that would make whole different game. 2. Units do react to getting shot at, how did you miss that I don't know. 3. You can put 12 units in group with all races, what are you talking about? As limit is 200 supply and most units take 2 supply, what's the problem? Learn some
[quote]@setarcos Umm... you don't really know the postulates of the theory of evolution do you??[/quote] Please do enlighten me as to where you think my understanding is lacking. It may just be a case of my efforts to be succinct distorting what I actually understand, or I may have a misconception.
[quote]Evolution believers: You have nothing to gain from this argument. Obviously the ones "too stupid" to see facts, etc... will just end up eventually flush of the gene pool due to natural selection without your arguing,so you can rest assured and leave them alone.[/quote] Unfortunately, we're keeping these willfully ignorant people alive and helping them procreate with our science, and their "morals" tell them to "go forth and procreate", so we're generally working against natural select
[quote]After sixteen (16) pages of ranting, and still not one (1) scientific reason to why ID should be taught in science classes, can we decide on a no?[/quote] Probably, the ID supporters seem only able to attack evolution, not support their own arguments; but they say we're stacking the deck requiring them to use reason and provide stuff like empirical evidence and logical arguments.
[quote]Without the ability to test scientific theories about what existed 50 million years ago, the theory of evolution (as an explanation of origins) cannot in any way be stated as scientific fact.[/quote] Such theories can be tested, by looking at the fossil record, the elements and compounds in sedimentary rock formed from that time period. And for the quadrillionth time, evolution is not and does not attempt to be an explanation for the origin of life, nor one of the universe. [
Simple, all the tech we research are considered sensitive pieces of information, government secrets if you will. When planets are invaded, we hit the servers storing the blueprints with an EMP pulse, and send a self-destruct signal to all pieces of technology affected by the research. Like we would need to do that anyway, the orbital bombardment would've taken out any buildings that would've held that info in the first place.
[quote]I am so sorry that your eyes have been blinded by science... I am simply shifting my focus from typing to praying for each of you...[/quote] Typical of your ilk. Just plug your hears and start saying "La la la I'll pray for you la la la." What is wrong? Were you starting to have doubts? [quote]That you cannot accept anything that can't be explained scientifically[/quote] It's not that we cannot accept anything that can't be explained scientifically, its that we can't acc
[quote]I was asking the evolutionist WHY it hasn't changed.[/quote] Why should it have changed? Has something happened to make the universe less hospitable to it?
[quote]Can you tell me exactly WHY mixing the right proportions of hydrogen and oxygen together makes water? Why does it always make water.. why hasn't that "evolved" into making something different? there you go.[/quote] To be fair, he wasn't claiming water evolved, he was asking why it didn't. While a good grounding in chemistry could tell him why water forms the way it does, he probably isn't interested in that as he was completely ignoring the fact that water is not a livin
[quote]WRONG! You are seeing the EFFECTS of the wind. You are seeing the DIRT being blown by the wind, not the wind (air) itself.[/quote] If you want to get technical, you are not seeing the keyboard you typed on, just the difference in photons bouncing off of it compared to the environment around it. Heck, you are not even feeling the keys, merely signals about pressure on your finger tips. [quote]So you are saying since it is so old, then it can't be true?[/quote] I am in no w
As a side note, I don't understand peoples need for a first cause. It seems to me just a "turtles all the way down" argument in a different direction. If you saw an ice cream cone sitting upright in space (if anything can be said to be "upright" in space), you wouldn't ask what was supporting the cone. If physical objects don't need to have foundations going on forever to keep from falling, why should temporal ones? Or, a box has certain dimensions in space that we do not expect it to extend bey
[quote]I don't see any evidence supporting "something from nothing" you guys hang everything on. Isn't your god the "something from nothing" you hang on to? ABSOLUTLEY! I have never denied that.[/quote] But evolution isn't hung on something from nothing. It doesn't concern itself with the origins of the universe. If anything, evolution is about something from something else.
[quote]There is no evidence that species change from one to the other over time as evolution tries to explain the diversity of life. ... The missing link is still missing from every species...[/quote] The problem is that people will always want that stage in between. When a missing link is found, people want the ones between the new link and those it joins to each other. The fossil record clearly shows a progression, it just isn't smooth enough for some people...and never could be.
[quote]I can't "see" the wind, but I can believe in it's existence. I feel it on my face, I see the effects of it on the environment, etc. Just because it can't be seen, doesn't mean it isn't there.[/quote] Wind can be seen if it is dusty, and even if it isn't it can be measured objectively. What objective evidence do you have for your god? Thousand year old books are not proof, neither are "good feelings". [quote]It's equivalent to me attacking evolution by saying its ridiculous to
[quote]Once again... where did the protoaminoacids come from?[/quote] You're not asking the origins of life then are you, you are asking the origins of the universe itself. Something which evolutionary theory makes absolutely no statements about because it is beyond the scope of its field. [quote]You are just too afraid to admit that you do not know, and will not admit that some intelligent designer must have to be involved.[/quote] The only person here claiming to [B]know[/B] t
[quote]Personally, I believe all theories(intelligent design vs. evolution) and beliefs(Christanity, Islam, Hinduism,etc.) should be taught in schools[/quote] What about Scientology and Ralienism(sp?)? [quote]Believing in the monstrous bridge between (proven) micro-evolution and (theorized) macro-evolution is to have more faith than a person of faith.[/quote] You know, I've seen statements like this many times; but I have never seen it backed up anyone stating it. Would you care
[quote]Please try to understand God before you try to debunk Him.[/quote] Oh my, now you're claiming to understand a supposedly omnipotent and omniscient being? [quote]Christians have [B]always[/B] been persecuted, laughed at, mocked, and told to shut up.[/quote] Hahaha, Christians haven't been persecuted for centuries. In fact, they've been doing most of the persecuting...and before you say "they weren't real Christian" look up the "no true Scotsman" argument and why it doesn't
[quote]How can YOU claim that it evolved, when you can't even answer the question "how did it begin in the first place?[/quote] How can you claim to know god exists if you can't even ask the question "how he came to exist" in the first place? How can you claim the bible was written when you think it was and accurately recorded the literal word of your god when you don't know whether its authors even used their real names, and its content was decided by a bunch of bureaucrats? Observing that
[quote]Who/what created God? I have stated that multiple times... No one can answer that question. That is far back as anyone can go.[/quote] How can you claim to know the origins of the universe but not what created your "God"? I'll post any more responses tomorrow, but I've gotta go now.
