[Quote] Also, Slipspace travel is still finite. Interstellar travel in Sins takes a handful of seconds. Covenant Slipspace engines operate at a velocity of 8 LY/day (LY = light years). The distance from Sol to Proxima Centurai (the closest star to Sol) is 4.2 LY, so a Covie ship takes just over half a day to get there. By then, any Vasari fleet has already had 12 hours to establish themselves in the system. [Unquote] 1. That speed would appear to have been retcon by GoO to 912LY an ho
Vasaei Fleet arrives after many jumps-Covenant fleet jumps and reachs under defended Vasari worlds in short amount of time since they don't have to use phase lanes. Covenant glass worlds and capture stuff. Also 9+ light second range of Plasma torp pwns Vasari ships. Covenant win.
[quote who="psychoak" reply="332" id="2421513"]It began dead when it was started by a brainless, unthinking zombie... [/quote] Wow, great counter. Now for the quote on the MAC guns: The Magnetic Accelerator Cannon (MAC) gun is one of the largest (and best) weapons that the UNSC has in its fleet. Utilizing thousands of magnetic relays, it can ram a 600-ton projectile at nearly forty percent the speed of light . Able to p
[quote who="TheRezonator" reply="326" id="2404460"] The Keyship, operating on just a small fraction of the power from its engines was able to swat aside entire Pre-Covenant Elite fleets without breaking a sweet. Considering Covenant tech hasn't really improved over thousands of years and the Keyship just laughed off enemy fleets with a fraction of its true power is just scary. where does it say this? [/quote] Will I may be mis-remembering it know that I;m th
[Quote] GrandAdmiralSova117- Well, the site I got the 30 kips figure was the Halopedia site.[Unquote] [e digicons]o_O[/e] Halopedia some managed to get something from the books right?? Will the 30 kps quote is from TFoR but the entire book plus the others are completely against it. I don't really like to use TFoR to much since it was rushed from Nylund's head in about six weeks. [Quote] Though I do have to say that when you note what you did (w
[Quote] Do I sense another Atomic Rocket site traverser in GrandAdmiralSova117?[Unquote] Yep. [Quote] There's also the fact that, how fast do ST ships move in normal space (w/o warp drive)?[Unquote] If I remember corretly it is around 80,000 km per second. [Quote]The yield of the MAC gun- K=0.5*M*V/\2, where K=energy (Joules) M=mass (kg), and V=velocity (m/s). So- K=0.5*600,000 kg*(30,000 m/s /\2) K= 2.7x10e14 Joules, or around s
[Quote] For all we know, a Covenant energy projector will do squat to ST ships and a photon torpedo will punch out a Covenant battlecruiser in one shot. You can't do a meaningful comparison that way. [Unquote] Will I well do some math here on Covenant plasma torpedos at full power (aka, no Forerunner relics etc. forcing them to hold back) at Jericho VII. Glassing of Jericho VII, Prologue of Halo: The Fall of Reach, P. 8. What we know about the scene: The Master
yeah seems like the fighters at the end of the first halo 2 mission were carpet bombing with nukes, given the size of the hole they made in the carrier. The first nukes used in WWII were carried by bombers to their targets, and Longswords are the size of 747s. I don't see anything wrong there.
but halo doesnt get forerunner's...they're extinct I was just showing how will the Flood did against the Forerunner was all. And, what BS-besides most of the UNSC ground weapons, were you talking about? I wish they had made the UNSC more like GDI from C&C3. Now that would have been better.
[quote who="psychoak" reply="5" id="2325203"]Sova, you're eternally retarded, accept it and move on. The longer you continue spouting nonsense about Star Trek, the more I want to retroactively abort you. I'm more than enough of an "angry white man" already, it's bad for civilization to continue depressing me. Star Trek version of the Forerunners. T'kon Empire Well, one of them anyway, I'd hate to upset you with the knowledge that
i got the answer to this. St does /god in console and wins...f*ck!ng seriously...... all this bullshit they make up in halo.... No God-like races such as Q; they are off limits because they are an unfair advanage for ST, that is why I said no Q in the OP. And what do you mean BS in Halo? Do you mean the Forerunner losing to the Flood? The Flood wiped out a planet of 200 BILLION in less then 24 hours, only 2.6 million escaped if I remember correctly. Since we never
no frieken idea... i have to assume that ultimately the physical form of the borg would win....the nanites spread endlessly throughout biomass(except for 8472...haxx0rz) but it ultimately comes down to a contest of the wills between the queen and the gravemind. my money's on the queen. I would't put my money on it, the Forerunner had nearly 300 years of time to study the Flood and the Flood just shruged off whatever the Forerunner hit them with until the Array fired
[quote who="crashmatusow" reply="24" id="2324192"]flood are invalid. once the flood come into the picture, everyone dies (including the flood. tehy consuming everything alive and then die out). so no one wins the only way to bypass borg shield modulation was to use frequency modulated weaponry, something the covenant has in no way been proven capable of. [/quote] 1. I was just wondering if just Flood vs Borg which you think would win. I go with the Flood, we
now...borg would kick the shit out of covies, remember covies all use energy weapons, so borg will take over covvie ships easy....covvie's don't have tricks like the feds. [/quote] The Borg send ONE Cube a time at the Federation and lose each time, if they send say a dozen out of the hundreds of thousands they have then they would most likely win. Lets look at the Borg on the ground: shambles slowly along toward enemy that has weapon and doesn't even use
Will I seem to remember that Voy used some sort of virus to kill the Borg, computer virus that started from the queen or a Cube. I'm sure I read something that said Voy at least leveled the playing field by crippling the Borg with a virus of some sort. Also, the only reason the Covenant glassed Human worlds was because of Humans being "Reclaimers", the High Prophets found this out from the AI at the heart of the Dreadnought before they became Hierarchs. Even so it was a
in the numbers war its hard to say, im guessing cov have a lot more ships but the feds cant be small eather with hundreds of plants allied together and have shipyards that i know of, but sense your basicly pulling out the big bad guys here and i dont want to just pull some lame super weapon out in too the mix, il put up the big bads of Star Trek. Like the borg. Didn't Voy destroy the Borg? I thought it had. And I have given the Fed a good fleet number based on the fact they
[quote who="Dark_River" reply="15" id="2323778"]star trek fire power is not shown much but i have to think its better, i mean with ST:Enterpise alone there was a weapon that could destroy plants, sense Star Trek was not really ment to be about such things i dont think there fire power was really displayed but seeing how its based around such levels of technology, like transporters / anti matter weapons / star destoying missles / cloaking tech / faze cloaking / warp / holo-decks / and so
but on this halo vs star trek thing, i really dont see why you picked such a pair, i mean its like ninjas vs pony's or ants vs hammers. i just dont get it, there not even on the same level. i mean look at some of the real "vs" movies like AVP / Freddy vs Jason, kinda thing. Ship to ship wise, nothing anyone says here is going to make me think Star Trek is going to lose there. But ground troops i can see halo winning, but like i said: i just dont think they are a good pair to debate
[quote who="crashmatusow" reply="10" id="2323283"] And also, is this "tricobalt torpedo" a common weapon they are willing to use? From what I see they would die long before they used one. well you know in the face of innumerable odds, why not just try firing one at a covie fleet? surely if a high speed balistic projectile can kill a covie ship...a poorly designed projectile i might add...seriously their QA teams aren't doing their jobs right...<br
[quote who="crashmatusow" reply="6" id="2323252"] Quoting GrandAdmiralSova117, reply 5 Have you ever played it on Legendary or consider game balance? What fun is it to have a tac nuke drop on your head, because in the books the Wrath's blast destroys everything in a 20 meter radius. So neither the books or games have to be thrown out, because they can be used to gather. Also, can the Enterprise survive the PoA reactors overloading? You,
I wish 55% of the population would bvote for me when I ran for any office. Granted. But the space dogs are angered by you winning and send their mind controled dinosaurs after you. You barely escape into space, but as you eneter orbit you transport through space and time to the year 2552... right into the center of a Covenant Assault Carrier, next its main reactor. You see a large green figure float by on a strange purple thing with spikes on, and then realize where you are. You have
[quote who="crashmatusow" reply="4" id="2323221"]well, hell, tanks in halo can't even do jack shit to a jeep. source:halo 3. the thing just gets topped in its tracks then takes off again. on the other hand, im sure the enterprise is quite capable of destroying a tank...or a ship oh yeah and either the halo books or games have to be thrown out...in books plasma pistols /rifles were uber strong, like a 2 hit kill, in the games they don't do jack. [/quote]</
Quote. I would, but there's no point in telling you everything you said was wrong. What with it already having been done, repeatedly, for the last 11 pages... unquote EVERYTHING I just said was wrong? I shall haven't found that quote again yet but it is the ship computer that said it, which was the crust would be destroyed in ONE HOUR, and the mantle stripped away in six hours. See, the sensors Officer was wrong, and even it did not fit what limited visuals w
Will I'm back! Been watching an HvsST debate over at Spacebattles.com and reading through my Halo books; been a couple years since I last read one. Oh, and psychoak, I saw a quote about your little "destroy 30 percent of a planet's surface in on volley". I don't have it on hand but somewhere it mention that they wouls destroy the surface in an HOUR... so you lied, you used the more powerful but wrong readings from the sensor officer. And even then there was a quote that had megajoule
[quote who="TheRezonator" reply="14" id="2283986"] Ture that, isn't HALO the brain child of some people at Microsoft? Brain and Microsoft in the same sentence? Wow, you've got guts =P anyway, in reference to the posts by Unknown924 and GrandAdmiralSova, the fact that we dont know exactly what an Isoton is, is not my problem. Those are the numbers. The fact remains that Star Trek was designed to investigate current moral and ethical issues, while giving a hopef
