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Thank you darvin, I couldnt have said it better myself. Armor > all one important thing to consider when theory crafting the strength of units is that 1 point of shield is NOT comparable to 1 point of hull, hull points are more valuable even for advent, but especially for TEC. Reason being, as Darvin said, because of double mitigation. I'll get bored and do the numbers to factor the correct absolute values of these ships, and T1 TEC upgrades, I suspect that will tell a very

To add some sanity to this post, althought noone will probably read it.... EMP charge is AOE, and it WILL hit guardians. You basically have to target an illum that is near the guardian/s since the illums will always be infront of guardians it shouldnt be a problem. disciples have a decided advantage over cobalts?? hardly. 3 more damage for 1 more ship slot, cobalts and tougher and more expensive, its really apples to oranges. If the arguement is about spammability, I would agr

for people who want to see how its done.... http://www.filefront.com/15141471/588%20in%201-25.record I rushed someone so I didnt even eco for the first half hour, also right before the replay ended 6 more links were about to pop onto my tradeline easily giving me like 150 more creds a sec. As the game title implies, I got 588 creds 1 hour and 25 min into the game. So yeah, its possible.

Fluxfield is.....MEH! unless you like to play multi-star FFAs or something. I dont even have to look up exactly what it does to tell you why its not that great =) It reduces AM cost and cooldown time for abilities aye?....so what. that is really only relevent for the other cap ships you have. so a kol with FF can shoot all his marginal abilities all day long....WOOT????...?? I dont personally see how a kol firing 3 rail guns in the time it would normally only shoot 1 or 2 railguns demonstrate

I like what Klem was saying. Conceptually, your goal is to force the advent to produce flak or even LFs (Sents and scouts its a good recipe for this), in either case you will be in a position to spam assailants, and repair cloud makes flak extremely in-effective against LRFs. TEC does the same thing but its even better for Vasari because if you have the carrier caps at lvl 3 your already doing what 10 hoshis can do for your fleet with no addition research. But the tradeoff is that Vas scouts

My only complaints are minor tweaks in your explainations. Ion Bolt is THE BEST cap disabling ability in the game. why? its cheap, doesnt break when the unit is attacked, and has a short recast, all the supplies you need to make a dead cap-ship pie =) from stats alone the sova has low DPS, but 3 SC + missile batteries (without crunching numbers) I would have to say gives it the most DPS of all TEC caps....least early and mid-game. I would put the marza as 2 just because its ou

This is off topic as hell, but: I'm sick of you bleeding vagina vasari complainers. Underpowered?....my ass! and fast speeds + no quick start would not be balancing, it would be clear favoritism for vasari. I would agree that vasari lacks a solid rush strategy that can be as difficult to defeat as TEC or advent against skilled plays (and I say SKILLED just because a SB rush is nothing more than nooby bait imo). But vasari is the only race that you can completely bumfuck yourself and still NOT

I cannot comment on the decisions of others players I will do my best to respond to the points your brought up. Since the patch (the akkan colonize and carrier cap buffs) I have based the majority of my strategies around 2 caps for several reasons. The akkan colonize is the best in the game, however it sucks at killing neutrals, the sova is an extremely versatile ship early and mid game and also excels at killing neutrals. But most importantly, I hate the waste from losing your scouts

whoops, your correct. soo (D*(1-SM))*(1-(1/(1+A*.05))) D = damage SM = Shield Mitigation A = armor and is damage type factored before shield mitigation and armor? I know it has no effect on the actual amount of damage, but it would effect shield mitigation growth or decay. if so an LRM(11 damage at 75% to cap armor) is doing .88 damage per shot to a lvl 8 marza (assuming 11 armor and 70% shield mitigation) this is cracking me up =) &nbsp

that would be the equation for Damage Taken onces the shields are down, if shield mitigation effects hull damage.

the question isnt really whether armor effects shields, but if shield mitigation works with armor once the shields are down. if it did, tec would basically have some of the beefiest ships on the block. essentially onces your armor mitigation gets higher than the shield mitigation cap, your ships would actually take less damage once the shields are down, significantly less. a better test would be to have 2 of the exact ship fight, one with shields and one without. but with shield regen

do you have a formula for me? are we talking ((1/(1+(X*.05))*100)*(1-.5) cuz youd only receive 1/3 damage with 10 armor at 50% shield mitigation...seems nuts. so a lvl 8 marza with 4 armor upgrades has 11 armor, a max shield mitigation of (and im estimating here) 70...it would receive roughly 19% of all damage.... can anyone verify this?

[quote]Sovas only truly shine as (ironically) raiders and trench fighters.[/quote] how wrong you are my friend. only 3 caps worth getting as tec aside from when you are front-running are: (in no particular order) Akkan, Marza, and SOVA. I have done some dirty dirty things to people with double sovas. I dont even get embargo, its a drain on antimatter. I cant thinks of any situation early game where a kol could be the deciding factor. And I'd only start with a dunov if I wanted

[quote]omg i got rushed and died? impossible[/quote] SPOILER ALERT!!!! and not to be an ass Klem, but the part in that replay where you go "I'm owning 3 caps, yay me" or something like that, and 3 seconds later we kill your cap, is in my top 5 moments of Sins irony, maybe top 2...who knows =P

If I can hi-jack the thread for a minute.... does anyone know precisely the relationship between shield mitigation and armor? Conceptually I would assume armor has no effect when shields are up and shield mitigation does nothing onces they are down. or do they work collusively somehow?? thanks in advance.

[quote]I fought a human who didn't use repulse. Just got Illlums, Illums, and more Illums. It's not a bad idea in theory. Just get shear amounts of DPS to crush. He had 100 Illums and a progen/halcyon and like 8 guardians.[/quote] I played my first 50 games with advent without even building a guardian. only won 49 of them that way. late game aside, im gonna talk about a few key points to keep in mind when your fighting an advent player, the late game will be decided by early a

replay or GTFO?? =) only way I see that working is solo on a 10 man multistar with no comps, thens its just a matter of spamming the tradeports, tradebases, and colonizing as efficiently as possible. 10 man single star wont come close. Never figured JJ for a forum troll lol =P

Hey Krath here! Figured it was time to blow the top off some of my smurfs and bring you guys some of the more interesting games i've played recently. Advent seems to be the flavor of the....well...how long has this game been out? =) Got some feedback from my last post that seemed to favor 1v1 replays the most. Consequently so this pack has 2 1v1s, a 2v2 with me and Tyr and a 5v5 for good measure. Hopefully these are similar in entertainment value as the replay between Cykur and I.

they are replays from the latest patch, correct. I zipped with 7-zip but any software that compresses files should beable to do it.

Yeah Star player disappointed me on that game, he just got over and over and over again by Caius. kind sad. and really it was a golden setup, our seemingly 2 best players on the wings with 3 feeders. also id like to add that CGL is madly out of practice, and tek jansen isnt as good as I had thought. thats all I have about that.

Krath here! Since I cant figure out how to work (if it even works???) the Ironclad site that allows you to upload replays, I've posted some some stuff here: http://www.filefront.com/14912939/Various%20Sins%20Replays.zip I think theres a good mix of stuff in this pack, some skilled pugs, a 1v1 or 2, and various pretty good pug games.If your trying to learn some tips, tricks, or advanced strategies the skilled pug games are probably what your looking for. Ad

Krath here! while ago I got bored and put together some interesting replays, some skilled games, some 1v1s, a few good pugs and what not. The treasure trove of sins gaming experience is located here: http://www.filefront.com/14912939/Various%20Sins%20Replays.zip Enjoy! -Krath

I think what youll likely end up with, scheduling aside, is a mishmash of DT, BIA, DU...etc players. I should be on most of the weekend, recovering from this hell week at school. Ill play for either side, im sure BIA would take me =-)