Magnnus

I'm assuming cruel and vicious cheat. Is this assumption correct?

[quote who="jjandrah" reply="20" id="2511512"]Maybe we do start too high, and it's too easy to park a ship - it was too easy in beta 1, too hard in beta 2, and now it could very well be too easy. I'm sure they'll find the right balance, the core concept is sound. I don't disagree that other mechanisms would be an improvement. Maybe mission offering needs to be tier 1 tech and ambassadors tier 2, provided with more low-level missions: Give me this much of

[quote who="jjandrah" reply="18" id="2511487"]I didn't really feel the expansion either at first, or the first time I fired it up. After playing it tonight with a 5 AI, unlocked teams, it suddenly clicked. My gameplay suddenly became less Starcraft. I no longer used the same pattern of ignoring the AIs/pirates beyond my neighboring gravwells, slowly taking over. Instead, my gameplay became more MOO2. I can now build a relationship with my neighbor in a more logical and interac

[quote who="wbino" reply="15" id="2511249"]Quoting Magnnus, reply 14 Quoting wbino, reply 13Unless I'm wrong the whole expansion is pointless once you get down to the last two remaining teams. (1x1) Why should it have to get down to 1x1? Why not stay with your ally and make it 2x1 instead of betraying him? If you really feel the need to fight without an ally then thats just another sign that diplomacy isn't working. I've always enjoyed large 1x1 ga

[quote who="wbino" reply="13" id="2511117"]Unless I'm wrong the whole expansion is pointless once you get down to the last two remaining teams. (1x1) [/quote] Why should it have to get down to 1x1? Why not stay with your ally and make it 2x1 instead of betraying him? If you really feel the need to fight without an ally then thats just another sign that diplomacy isn't working.

[quote who="Leuthesius" reply="10" id="2510886"] Also, Diplomacy isn't really meant for single player play--but multiplayer. In a two vs two game, the Diplomacy tree could allow one team to have increased defense, trade, research, weapons power, and so on. So if you've got two Vasari players and they've got all of the diplo tree taken care of, and you attack them, there's a chance you'll be dealing with 62,000hp worth of Orkulus starbases in a single system. Diplomacy is the next step in

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So far I'm not very happy with the diplomacy expansion; they didn't even really add any new diplomacy. Even look at the diplomacy screen, the only difference is pacts, which don't have anything to do with getting and manipulating relations. Other than that they just limited what you can do with other AI/players until you research some tech. Giving missions feel weak because I don't even know if anything happened and its easier and more effective to ally with them and tell them to attack anywa

[quote who="FrznMD" reply="79" id="2493864"]Whens the next Beta for Diplomacy? Thanks [/quote] I've been wondering that also, but I didn't want to be the one to ask...

Maybe just disallow that mission from allies in a locked game until they both have the tech, but allow it when only one party has the tech in unlocked games.

We need espionage; it's something that completes the 4x experience. That would also give those playing locked teams or online matches something out of this expansion. Of course adding espionage probably asking too much of a dev team with limited time and others matters to worry about. Barring that more powerful cultural effects would definitely make things a little bit more interesting on the civic side.

I just thought of a good remedy for the awkwardness that I feel about the current pact system. Instead of having a series of pacts that are specific to the race but somehow overlap with those of other races have one research pact with various levels. Then you can have research topics that require a certain level of research pact with other races to get the pact bonuses. This way the you can benefit from having pacts with multiple allies without it becoming overpowered, and it makes the diplom

Game mechanics 1. Have a % likelihood indicator on pacts and missions Yah 2. Continual Tribute option (% of income, metal or crystal tribute per minute to a faction) Yah 3. AI working together on harder settings If by this you mean working together specifically against the player then NO. If anybody is familiar with the Total War series and its infamous AI then let it be known that according to the

I actually had the AI telling me to coordinate an attacks on the pirates, and they never showed up; so its not just you asking them.

I don't think both factions should need the tech to demand resources; it just limits the faction that gets it first.

I think I actually like the new beta less. Needing the player to park envoys at every other players planet is a real pain in the ass when there is no auto function, which would be in the same vein as auto explore. The pacts seem gimmicky, and this new 100/200% relation thing just doesn't seem right. I would rather just have a higher possible relation; actually I would rather have a much higher possible relation that goes far above what is needed for pacts so that I can really see how we are g

I absolutely agree; One of my least favorite thinks about this game and more specifically this expansion is the fact that everyone stats out hostile. Currently I see almost no change in this expansion and very little diplomacy because everyone is at war with each other. At the very least make it an option.