Greetings, 1st post, albiet have lurked these forums for a short while, mainly for mods and I am an expert at the "search" option....
-It seems like a catch 22 from what I'm reading, on several levels. For example, newbies are scared to play guys with 300 games, but the guys with 300 games seemed to have said that 200 of those games the newbies quit before they even really gave it a shot, "one lost battle and they quit".
-Another is Newbies look for others to play with in which smurfed accounts of skilled players really dilute that pool. I can understand why skilled players "restart" their personal accounts if no one is willing to play them, but the question remains:
When you smurf an account, why is it the first map you hop on is with other self-admitted newbies? And not aimed at other skilled players? It's one thing to argue smurfed accounts, it's another in action when one only plays _real_ newbies. It's very...well TEC of them.
So this is the message I walk away with:
1. Play sins until you can best 2-3 AI on unfair, then you've gotten a good headstart for MP.
2. Play a lot of games, watch replays, and study up, get better.
3. Enjoy a time where people will play you until you earn a reputation as "unbeatable".
4. Remake a new account so others will play with you again.
5. Play on easy mode as you squash genuine newbies for the rest of your sins gaming life.
Now I know this doesn't apply to a good select number of veteran players who are simply here for fun gaming in a game they enjoy. In short: Do anything you enjoy, lots, and you'll become a master, not remain the apprentice.
-The veterans also maintain that it's only a small handful of guys out there who really earn the bad reputation, the "PWN NOOBS!!!" guys...
However most casual or new players who has posted on this thread, has maintained they fight 2,3 or 5 battles in MP, get destroyed, get talked down too, note, not simple trash takling, and they walk away thinking, "screw mp"...
If it's a small handful, then logic dictates this wouldn't be the through and through that new players these days experience on a consitent basis.
Granted, this is all theory for me, as I've admittedly not ventured into MP with sins. But it is a collection of past experiences and a thorough knowledge of these boards. Call it an educated guess, if you will.
-Playstyle is paramount. Me? I'm an epic speed player who really digs building empires of diplomatic and trading dominance. I prefer to remain "good" to all races, including pirates, until such a point that it's silly for the vassals to remain as another empire. Often times renaming everything as I inherit a new empire, so it's a coalition of sorts and not a hostile takeover...well in perception.
This doesn't happen in MP, period. Sure, I love a good battle as much as the next guy, so can be stirred into co-op or #vs# play, but by and large, if the game doesn't take 40 hours to complete, I'm generally not interested.
An hour long game spanning 6 star systems just isn't appealing to me, it's not realistic to any degree. There is no immersion. Whoever can dominate the quickest wins. Rome wasn't built in a day, but it sure fell in a day, quite literally.
Another poster (on page 3 or something) once related a MP fight, they bluffed, sending a quick large fleet early in game to flatten another empire. They didn't win the war in those short stomp battles, and had the newbie persisted at the rate they were building (and not just quit the game) they could have steamrolled the veteran as they had nothing else. I imagine this is 75% of MP battles to be honest.
I don't mind losing, and losing bad. As a new player, in any game, that will happen, more than not and more times than one probably cares to count. But eventually you hold out another 5 minutes, ten minutes, until, oh...i've won...That applies to everything in life. Practice makes perfect...Be it Michael Phelps at Beijing or the uber sins player at ironclad_online...
What I do mind, is listening to some whelp talk down to me, while playing a game mommy probably payed for. That is what makes me quit a game, not losing. Another poster related his experience as a contact sports player. As a 220 ib. 6'3 active rugby player, I can sympathize.
Fact is, I don't have any firends that play this game, and short of MMO's I've played before (curerntly in CO closed beta and City of Heroes..) don't really have a base to build from, from either FPS or RTS. I've always wanted the MP aspect of diplomacy opportunities, but reality insists that doesn't happen, this thread serves to prove that.
However, I'd love to be proven wrong in practice.