yeah, the range seemed a bit foo small to me too. after all the point is to build something that cannot be passed by so easily.

otherwise, strength wise I think they are fairly good. I was surprised to see them start so cheap and comparatively weak. they may even be a bit too cheap, at least compared to caps which have a bit less shield and substantially less damage. but are of course mobile.

Vasari being able to jump is a bad idea.  It turns vasari bases into uber powerful but slow cap ships.

Yep Increase the range of these starbases.

I agree Starbases should be able to move within the gravity well and just have the Vasari starbase phase. Or starbases need severe range increase while the vasari starbase needs a reduction.

Also don't know if anyone else noticed this but the TEC starbase when built does not fire Autocannons. And only fires beams when it recieves the upgrade.

I would also like to see a range increase in the Advent Starbase. Although it is pretty cool and I have not seen as many problems as the other Beta testers, I would suggest an Increase in range for the advent sb, larger tactical slots so that you can at least have 1 of every ability available to the sb, the ability to move around the gravity well, And new screenshots from other faction's sb's since I dont go anywhere near the Vasari or TEC I'd just like to see what i'd be up against.

I don't know if it was just my map or what, but within the first hour of play, all AI had starbases on 3/3 of their planets. I was pretty shocked. The AI seems to have improved a lot.

I think they have also fixed how ships track other ships. It seems like LF's now stay within an optimal range (about 90% of their range). Can anyone else confirm? I find this works really well as they will follow ships around a gravity well and continue to fire, rather than stop go stop go. I might be dreaming though... If so, I'd like to test out the long range delicate ships in the opposite function, they run away if something gets within a certain distance. This would be good for carriers, Long Range Frigates.. anything else?

i'd agree, star bases are very under ranged. I'm not sure why. I'd also like a second ring around a constructor frig that shows the range of the SB after it's been built.

I like the price of starbases, I was worried they would be too expensive and never used. I can't say how they work though as I mindumped before being able to battle them.

I haven't confirmed if AI captures or fights for neutrals. It would be really awesome if they did. 

Agreed, starbases need a lot more range (and possibly very, very slow movement). I was able to completly ignore enemy starbases that were in odd positions, too.

Hell, I was even able to capture the planet with an enemy starbase still in the system.

instead of increasing the range of a starbase imo it would be logical if the starbase moves on a circle around the planet. that would be physically correct and the starbase covers the whole gravity well. only other buildings should not be in their way

I agree with both. I already love the effect that starbases have on the game, a sense of defense, but i think it still isn't quite enough. Starbases are easy to avoid, and a little too easy to take down. The built-in flak turrets sounds like a must to me.

off of starbases on to mines - is there anyway of clearing them. I get that the scout is the only one that can see them, but how do u get rid of them? The Vasri can lay them any where including my own grav well!

If u cant shoot them we need a mine clearing ship. Perhaps change the role of the missle cruiser to mine clearing? as 15 bomber squads do a better job.

Edit: ok I have just look at Vasri and Advent, they dont quite have the same set up as TEC. But questions still remains, how do u clear mines, particularly TEC, and bombers are still better than the avgro? cruiser.

the flaks sound like a good idea, it's definately odd that such a big stucture has no anti-fighter weapons.

also, I see dknipp2's point. build time and upgrade time should be a bit higher, and maybe doubled when in an enemy grav well. in fact, it could be like half or so in your own or allied wells, normal in neutral ones and double in enemy ones.

as to general balance: I'd say they are a bit too offensive in their basic setting. they have about the hp of a capship, but several times over the firepower. maybe shif a little bit fp to hp? I do however love that they start out affordable and can be upgraded and that there is a hard limit as to what kinds of upgrades you can pick. a bit like i GC II (and I liked the system there).