Why all the TEC hate?

that's weird. because i usually see lots of TEC.

in fact, the poll on the sins site indicated that a majority of people play TEC

i'm for tec. early game is rough for tec but as soon as the upgrades are placed specially hulls and firepower and certain ships like kodiacs and lets not forget the power of those kobalts in late games can be very usefull.

tec FTW!

This is not true. I am fien with TEC. Very easy to go military or trade, and swithcign from one to the other is a breeze also.  TEC are very good, and their starbase is strategically superior.

i think the factions are pretty well balanced actually. i've always felt the Advent are the weakest of the three to be honest, mostly because they have much worse high level civilian techs than TEC or Vasari. militarily speaking its a very close balance and all three factions have their relative strengths and weaknesses.

also, i'll echo MarkoBarko's observation. i was always under the impression that TEC was the most popular faction.

What I like about the Advent civvy tree is that, unlike the other races, you can have everything of importance with three labs.  You have trade, culture bonuses, sufficient extraction boosts, and most of your other useful upgrades.  Vasari need four labs to touch trade, and 6 or 7 before they get anything really dangerous.  TEC needs 4 labs to get culture bonuses and even more if they want their more powerful upgrades.  An Advent can realistically play a relatively long game with only 3 civilian labs.  

I think Allure of Unity is very good.  With entrenchment you can get that Induced Reverance.  They stack and that is serious advantage.

Well, I don't know about new Entrenchment techs, but Allure of the Unity requires 8 labs and lots of resources.  That's not something you rush to bring out, especially when there isn't that much to grab along the way.

I tend to play TEC as much as I play Vasari these days....

tec weak?

lol

Argonevs are BEASTS when fully upgraded, it takes FOREVER to bring them down. You get one of these up with full defense upgrades and it will be there for awhile. Throw some squadron hangars to fight off anti-structure ships and a repair platform or two with it, and you've got yourself one of the most solid defenses in the game.

I see lots of people use this kind of defense, So I guess you just aren't playing with the right people. I really rarely play a game where someone isn't TEC.

Honestly, I think TEC is the best race.  However, I still play Vasari because of the early econ boost and the fact that I almost cry when I see a teammate pass up neutrals.  If I knew another teammate could grab those neutrals like I can, I would be TEC 100% of the time.

Advent defences are best, tec SB got this other thing that makes it ... good

Personally, I prefer Vasari. I haven't played online yet, but against AI they suit my play style the best. Each race is fairly balanced, what you have to look at is their unique options. Vasari win me over with Phase Stabalizers, awesome firepower, great mobility, and of course, the mighty Space Egg.

There's no TEC hate that I can see.  The majority of what I see on multiplayer is TEC.

I play as TEC and their very strong mid late game. The reason is simple they use their support cruisers. If it weren'T for the support crusers TEC fleets would fall apart. ME when i get 30 hoshikos and 20 cielos with 5-6 military labs i havent seen anyone being able to stant up to my fleet. The best someone ever did "outside from people ont eh gold list" was kill 10 of my ships while I wiped out their entire fleet.

However i reap the day that advent and vasary players will grow smart and start using their own support cruisers agresively. Currently when advent gets 3 military labs they research illums with are a force additionner insteand of going for the gardians with are a force multiplier. Poud for poud for all races you get more bang back for you buck getting the support ships then getting combat ships. Same can be said for tier 5 support cruisers. Istead of gettign those people more us to the heavy cruisers. How many heavy cruiser rushes had my 20 kobalts and 30 hoshikos wiped out? LOTS they dont stand up to the test all. HE had more RAW dps but my force mitiplier ships made me have the huge advantage in the end.

As blair said in the interveiw with "Gamers with Jobs": "SINS isn't about uber units, it's about the sinergy between them."

......what?  .....TEC is the most common race I see everyone play as.  We lack Devoted Vasari players.  When I see Vasari it is usually skilled players that have their favorite race set as random

I'm an Advent player.  You should see how I use Gaurdians and Subjugators in the mid+ game. If upgraded enough I will hold my head up high and say " Bring on the Hoshikos".  However the Hoshiko in my opinion pwns any support ship when massively built for a fleet.....unless you could build 50 capital ships for support haha.

If you don't use the adventage of shields and support ships that advent have you might as well quit them and try a different race.

im am gold member, ill beat your silly fleet ^__^

Lol siddy in oen fight we had my silly fleet was holding yours at bay with smaller then you were getting. and you also has 6 caps vs my 2 caps. You talk tought but so far the 2 games i has with you don't live up to your talk. But you are indeed strogn and very skilled. Just not as much as you make it out to be in my opinion.

fleet with 30 hoshikos is just a wall. good luck trying to kill anything with it. support cruisers are great and all, in a supporting role. wouldn't you have gotten better performance out of 10 kodiaks and 10 hoshikos (thats about the same fleet logistics as 30 hoshis)? you could actually kill stuff that way. 

Nope You can take 20 cobalts and 30 hoshikos VS 20 cobalts 10 kodics and 10 hoshikos. The 30 hoshiko fleet will win easyly. Suport cruisers are a farce MILTIPLIER, were as combat ships are a force ADDITIONNER.

or you just run out of antimatter and die silly...

hoskios are famos for they damage output

and the 10 times i smurffed you you werent that grate. 1v1 me any time.

also, if i had 6 caps, at that point you were doing something realy wrong or i were just fucking araund

I dont know what you are babbling ona bout guys but pure hoshiko force won't do anything.  The targeting AI for demolition bots is nto so advence so at best you will cover 50% of the enemy units with them.  The remaining 50% will do about 5x dps of all your hoshikos combined.

 i allways attak the suport ship's first  with a small squad of ship's letting the rest of the fleet get on with it

LoL,  I disagree.  I would like you to prove to me using actualy factual data from the game that a Gaurdian will Multiply the damage I do to someone in the game with one Illumi vs where 2 Illumi just stack the damage.