I'm around, but I've been smurfing :-/  However, I can't say that I see you around all that much.  Are you smurfing too Zoomers?

I cant play with u cause u kiciking me out of your games

U kicked even when i smurfed u

U have smurfs fobia

And seriously have any of u calnners or non clanners even thought about playing DT vs game for an year?

no? so when u will we will glady reduce our smurfing time. But untill then smurfing is the only way for us to play together.

Oh i forgot, noone can win against Tyr or JJ. What a pile of bullshit.

And whats the point to be a clan member if u cant play together? few of those who didnt already left us

ps: cant wait for Greys smart comment already

Zoom ill make a week without smurf just for u

Me is Smurfing, but I deleted the game off today , got too much work on at the moment to play, and no I wont be smurfing tonight .

The Problem is, since Proto's list, smurfs are now gonna keep changing there identitys, like I have been doing this week, so the issue has become a bigger problem. Smurfs can easliy be created and of course get about 25 games in 5 minutes (secret tip ). Protos argument to this maybe 'his list should get bigger', and when it does, when majorty of sins players find out who that msurf is, he will drop it, and get a new one.

The fact is, I now have 3 new smurfs, with about 44 games, 34 games and 14 games on them aready in 3 days.

and agent, what the hell is your problem dude, do you not know that most of the sins community in game and on the forums hate you?  Calm down with your atitude, yes we all know that people kick noobs out of games, but your starting to become the new kok of the forums.

If you stopped kicking noobs out of your games,  I respect you for that, but if zoomers and other player still want to, let them, its there choice and right, dont try to become the saviour of all noobs. I stopped kicking new people out of normal games ago, but if a noob player joins a skilled game I tell him at the start that he might be kicked for more skilled players, so he dont stay to get kicked.

The reason I smurf:

To try new things out.

To play with the players i joined a clan with, why should I play with other people when i joined a clan to play with my clan. Sometimes it maybe stacked yes, but I dont care, at the end of the day, I played with my clan on world in conlfict and many other games, but why cant I on this? becuase the community is too small? thats a bad excuse.

Many people will lose a lot more than they win in there first few months when playings sins, however I won more than I lost, my first record was

Major ******* (64W-16L-168 games) - acutally lost 34 games

Commander ******* (102W-1L-192 games) - acutally lost 26 games

[_]-BlackHawk (137W-0L-137 games) - - acutally lost 29 games

1-How am I suppossed to know who is on your "ban list"?  As far as Pawelo goes, he was playing on a known account, of course I would want him in my games.

2-When I join a game I say this almost every time..."Hi guys.  Smurf for me?...and usually I can get in, because, go figure, people don't like playing with smurfs. 

I admit that maybe the people kicked might have been noobs, but this proves my point as well.  The smurf issue is causing new players to be booted from games.  Because IT IS SO HARD to trust anyone playing on an "unknown" account.

New player or smurf, they look the same, and unfortunatly are being treated the same.  I think I made this point too.

Last I knew quar, Klemz left because you all smurfed so much.  I don't have much smart to say.  You have heard what my opinion is of the subject.  You all prefer to smurf and stack teams rather than have balanced games.  I do not get to play with my actual clan all on one team either.  The difference is I don't use it as an excuse to smurf(and since you were going to do it anyways its just an excuse) and I don't whine about it.  Seeing as how you all smurf to hide who you are it is difficult to get any DT around to play an actual clan game.  DT might as well not be a clan anymore.  You take no pride and are lacking the balls not to hide.

[_]-Greyfox

OPERATION: DT STOP SMURFING AND FACE US YOU NOOB'S!

The Great One Has Spoken!

haha just say in lobby we challenge DT and we will apeare imidietly

Klemz left cause he had personal issues, he smurfed as much as we all did

Sunny i played with kok yesterday and u know what , he sounds exactly like u, did u get a lessons from your master?

I dont want to know haw did u pay for them

I know i havent been on sins in a long time but thats cause everytime i log on my firends lists which is full to the point that i cant add no more friends to it only has 1 or 2 ppl online, not to mention the smurfing is quite annoying but i can usually get the smurfs to admit their skill lvl if not their name.  As for klemz having a personal issue i cant say thats true cause instead of being on sins any more me and him have been on eve almost constantly.  but with the release of the latest expansion it will bring a few new faces to the game so if you want to use that to your advantage to make the community grow u might want too try and not kick newbs like zoomer is trying and also try not to smurf them cause it does suck jsut losing every game.  just my opinion. in truth tho we all know smurfing wont stop and that the newer ppl to the community will suffer because of it. gl in fixin it tho.

@Blackhawk

lol man, this may be off topic. but you better damn well say that your Back in Black next time your on hahaha

Not in regards to the poster of this thread but holy cow Batman, what a bunch of immaturity.

You guys who like to smurf--who cares?  Smurf is just another way of saying "cheap shot" and "gutless wonder".  If you are really so good and your clan is so hot why don't you do the following (instead of slinking around crushing players who don't even know how to play yet and then bragging about it like you accomplished something):

ONE--Just tell people it's you and your clan up to bat.

TWO--Instead of going 5v5 against total novices--make some maps where you can go  1v6 or 2v8 or 3v7 and prove how good you are.  Then everybody can have fun and your victory might actually mean something.

I am astounded after reading around at all the smurfs bragging about how incredibly potent they are and it pretty much looks like most of their "great triumphs" are against brand new babes.  It's like if I grabbed a bottle from a baby in a stroller and then held it aloft and yelled, "VICTORY!  I OWN YOU PUUUUNK!!" How can you guys get any satisfaction from this?  It's absolutely stupid and just pathetically sad.  Gee--maybe I will start  a tackle football game at home this afternoon with some pre-schoolers.  I bet I can take 'em.

"We have to smurf or we can't get enough players"...right.  maybe its just no one wants to play with you because you are just annoying.  It takes a village to make a community...and every village has its idiot.  I guess ya'll must have volunteered for the spot.  I am literally just astounded at how stupid some of the "we are proud to be smurfs" posts are after reading through them.  You guys are hysterical.

Apologies to the non-smurfs for the rant.  I just can't believe thee guys are for real.  Do they have actual lives? Do they really think being good at this game is some sort of next level of human evolution and they are it's vanguard? Heck guys, it's a game and you play it for fun.  Go join the marines if you have something to prove.

Yes smurfing isn't only problem but if u have to wait 20-30 min for a game and (IF YOU ARE LUCKY THERE IS NO MD OR DESYNC) the whole game lasts 30 min because of uneven teams..... it kind of gets ....... LAME.

PS. As of today I'm retired from SINS at least via ironcland online.

Now, I don't consider Zoom or Rat or the majority of the others as drama queens or unsavory types, but you have to consider the source when someone starts blathering about why Sins has caused them to have a hangnail, a fly in their ointment, or hair in their soup.

Sins ROCKS!  One of a kind, no game like it, play it forever and a day!

 -- How ya like me now"?"