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[quote who="nzac" reply="84" id="2579116"]I want to see the cooling design if nvidia ever try to put two of these together in the same card 500+ W of power drawn. Guess it would scale well though from the reviews i have seen. Unless nvidia have missed something minor that can significalty reduce power (heat produced) requirements i cant see the 4xx cards going much faster. 10 percent (20 tops) of preformance gamers have a rig that would not need significant upgrades to support the

I'm somewhat concerned about the 90c idle temps with dual moniters and the jet turbine that cools it. The thing that really kills me is how are you going to be able to sli these guys with a 200 degree heatsink 1/4 of an inch away from the back of the bottom card. I bet Nvijdya named it gtx480 because you need a 480 rad for each gpu. [e digicons]:D[/e]

I don't know why it happens, but if it is helpful this happened to me with with my 5870 Catalyst 9.11 when my memory overclock wasn't stable.

That was at most of the review sites, fudzilla is too full of crap most of the time for my taste, but had the shortest link and I can't CP.

www.fudzilla.com/content/view/18170/34/ Getting better every day. Shader Clocks look like they have some room to grow and I'm not sure what to make of the mem.

[quote who="jongalt26" reply="73" id="2570950"]More ATI dominance?? sigh..... (i really want the physx and gpgpu but its not looking good) http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/rumor_first_run_fermi_cards_sport_fewer_cores_expected j[/quote] That's still not shabby.

[quote who="CraigHB" reply="69" id="2568762"] Gaming/personal computing drivers from nvidia had the problems. Other applications nvidia is 5 years ahead of ati. Ummm, isn't that what we were talking about. Personally, I don't care much about nVidia's other offerings since I'm only using their GPU right now. I don't see myself going with one of their chipsets again I never got very good performance out of the last set I used, but that was quite a while ago.&nbs

[quote who="CraigHB" reply="65" id="2568457"]Yea, that rebranding is just a cheasy maketing ploy to create an illusion of product advancement that doesn't really exist, so lame. My GTS 250 is really just a 8800 GTS with a smaller die and a faster core/memory clock. It's exactly the same card as a 9800 GT. If you don't count the 260 series as a mid-range card, they haven't made a real step forward in that venue for several yea

[quote who="lbgsloan" reply="63" id="2567623"]I tend to go with whatever company is offering the best value for money. This was NVIDIA back with their 7000 and 8000 series, and then ATI's 4000 series. Competition between the two is important, or they get arrogant and start selling their mid-range cards for $300-400, instead of the $150-200 you see today. However, I dispise NVIDIAs business practices at the moment. Their constant rebranding to confuse less technica

[quote who="jongalt26" reply="60" id="2566449"]FYI here's a good calculator http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp RothD, i really hope your pricing numbers are right! j[/quote] That makes two of us. These cards arent't supposed to be widely available until 2011 anyways, but I'm hoping they are reasonable and perform well so I can grab a half dozen 285's on ebay.8) Now those prices are up on a third site, (Techpowerup) from

[quote who="SwerydAss" reply="50" id="2565828"]That is true my 300 watt per 5970 was non overclocked. But why would you overclock since if you have one of these beast machines there is no point until you find something it cant handle.. Which should be at least a few years down the road.[/quote] In this case one would do so to let the card compete on an even playing field. If you are going to compare two different cards it shouldn't be against one that has been downclocked s

[quote who="jongalt26" reply="46" id="2565741"] Quoting rothdave1, reply 44 I was under the impression that the gtx 480 was going to run around $700. I apologize if that's not the case....(it's also currently on pre-order at sabre PC for $700 but i dont necessarily trust the price nor the pre-order) If it's in euros 450 eu = $614 + - .. The reason for the comparison is that i want the best bang for my $700. If the 480 is indeed $

[quote who="jongalt26" reply="29" id="2564964"]Why would you compare the gtx480 to the 5970? Ummm for those that lack a keen insight for the obvious, i would say that it's because they are essentially the same price. Why would I compare a $700 nvidia card to a $400 ATI card? Also, the 480 should damn well blow away a 5870 due to the significant price difference. For that matter why would you quote anything from semiaccurate? They were not kind to nvidi

[quote who="Island Dog" reply="71" id="2564731"] I have been running ATI cards for years, and never had a problem with DeskScpes, or any other Stardock software for that matter. If you are having issues I would recommend sending a support e-mail with details of your issues. [/quote] What's the word here? I thought this was a three piece series. Arrival, Installation, Reveiw.

[quote who="jongalt26" reply="25" id="2564697"]Ask this question again in April and you will have a more definitive answer. Benchmarks for the new nvidia card will be released. Keep in mind that the new nvidia card is going to be $700 and it will be compared to the ATI $700 dual gpu 5970. The nice thing is that you are planning on waiting and the answer will most likley be obvious in a couple of months. They will release budget versions in the future. Person

The way I see it today is ATI has the best cards on the market, (5000s). March 26th that may change. The 5000s run cool, are very fast, and use little power. Nvijya g200 cards run alot hotter, use more power, cost more but have way better driver support and they do everything. I'd go ATI if you are gaming primarily, Nvijya if you let you box fold when you aren't using it or you use CS or something like that. Until the 26th, then everything needs to be re-evaluated based on what the GTX480,470

[quote who="Aroddo" reply="8" id="2564151"]Ignore Island Dog. He's just an arse who revels in the suffering of those that are unworthy in his eyes.[/quote] I tried quoting you for the first line.

[quote who="Island Dog" reply="6" id="2564116"]Yeah, and putting the federal government in charge will somehow make it better. LOL.[/quote] If the US system sucks, who is doing it right? Are you suggesting that the gubmint that gave us No Child Gets An Education, Medicare (bankrupt), Medicaid (bankrupt), Social Security ( 57 trillion unfunded liabilities way way past bankrupt), DHs, TSA, Homeleand Security, CRA of 1977 (caused that lil banking hiccup over the last few ye

[quote who="inerz" reply="8" id="2563108"]1 in 1000 men 20 years or younger could be termed 'responsible', probably less 1 in 100 men between the age of 20 and 30 could be termed 'responsible', probably less 1 in 20 men of any age older than 30 could be termed 'responsible', probably less because of the above, 1 in 4 of all children aged 10 or younger on this planet have been sexually abused. most of those children are girls. most of the abusers are

[quote who="starkers" reply="6" id="2560190"] . For example, you ring your boss to say that you won't be in for a few days because of a stomach bug, then he does a Google search and fires you because the test result of your faeces/urine is clear and he's worked out that you're really at the cricket. [/quote] What does this mean in American English?

[quote who="mickeko" reply="60" id="2559674"]Graphics cards is probably the only area where the common reaction to it being broken is "as long as I can circumvent it and it's faster than my neighbours', I'll use it". [/quote] This comes from the good folks at AMD/ATI that can't seem to put out drivers that work properly more than once a year despite their monthly driver updates. [e digicons]:D[/e]

[quote who="micro5797" reply="4" id="2558342"] Quoting rothdave1, reply 3I suppose I'll throw this up for discussion's sake. I have PIIx4 at 4.1 GHz 1.5v, MSI790FX-GD70, NB at 2600 at 1.35v, Crucial DDR3 1333 1.65v 7-7-7-24 and a pair of 5870's. Back when I first ran into this problem I was playing a huge random map against all unfair ai and about 5-6 hours in the game slowed to like 10 FPS. Now I can do about 30-35 FPS on those maps. Memory speed is irrelevant, lower clocks are more imp

I suppose I'll throw this up for discussion's sake. I have PIIx4 at 4.1 GHz 1.5v, MSI790FX-GD70, NB at 2600 at 1.35v, Crucial DDR3 1333 1.65v 7-7-7-24 and a pair of 5870's. Back when I first ran into this problem I was playing a huge random map against all unfair ai and about 5-6 hours in the game slowed to like 10 FPS. Now I can do about 30-35 FPS on those maps. Memory speed is irrelevant, lower clocks are more important.

[quote quoting="post"] Hey, I was just wondering when/how to get more use out of my processor on sins. My specs are as follows: Phenom II X4 955 @ 3.6 Ghz 4GB DDR3 1600 Radeon 4870 1GB @ 800/1000 Whenever I get deep into a huge game (Huge - Multi Star map with literally thousands of ships going at it all over the different star systems) the game begins to lag. Sometimes, badly if there is a whole lot going on

[quote who="CaptainAanderson" reply="48" id="2556795"]The i3 cpus, with a little overclocking, can perform as well as (or even much better than, depending on the overclock) an i7. They are 32nm, the newest manufacturing process, and many stories show the chips being able to consistently hit 4.5GHZ on Air cooling. AMD's lineup is value oriented and has some great choices, but the chips are aging and AMD is going to release new chips and motherboards soon that will make an