epiclulz

[quote]As any PC gamer knows not all patches are the same. Some games needs a patches just to make the game playable. Sins is playable right out of the box. [/quote] Games that are unplayable or borderline unplayable without a patch are few and far between. Ironcland isn't breaking new ground by shipping a game that works out of the box. [quote]Also as someone else pointed out it's the person who bought the game new who cheated you.[/quote] As far as I'm concerned the pub

[quote]If you don't like it, vote with your dollar and don't buy the game/get a refund instead of ranting and trolling in these forums.[/quote] Where have I trolled here? [quote]But if you didn't pay SD/IC, then why should SD/IC listen to your rants and give you support/patches or change their policies?[/quote] Jesus fucking Christ, I've explained this again, again, again, again, again and [i]again[/i]. What is the problem here? Can you not read or are you just stupid?<br

[quote]From this I understand you don't know what the hell a projection is. For your own sake just avoid using that word or read a psychology book.[/quote] Merriam-Webster: the attribution of one's own ideas, feelings, or attitudes to other people or to objects. Dictionary.com: the tendency to ascribe to another person feelings, thoughts, or attitudes present in oneself, or to regard external reality as embodying such feelings, thoughts, etc., in some way. Wikipedia:

[quote]Can you stop this fcking rant? Just buy the game if you want the updates or get lost and play whatever version is on that CD[/quote] I already returned it, and I have no intention of ever giving one cent to Stardock & co. [quote]after all, we who bought the game from Stardock use a lot of bandwidth to download the updates, and bandwidth is not free... Seriously man.[/quote] And that would be the reason why most other developers release their patches as executab

[quote]All of you, grow up. His name is 'epiclulz' for a reason, I'm sure he's gotten quite a bit of entertainment out of all your anger. Just ignore him (yet someone will think they have a witty thing to say to him that he can't create a comeback on, than others join in) and he'll go away.[/quote] Accusing the opposition of trolling is the last refuge of the incompetent, unless they have evidence (which you don't). [quote]I actually find epic very e

[quote]epiclulz is full of epic failure. You sir are stupid... very very stupid. Any relatively computer savy person knows to buy the license, not the data when purchasing software. data is easily replicated, its the license that makes your copy legitimate.[/quote] You live in a fantasy land. Again: the type of DRM utilized by SoaSE is [i]rare[/i] in games that aren't MMORPGs or something similiar, and I had no possible way of knowing in advance about it especially when I kept hearing ov

[quote]So does everyone else in the software industry.[/quote] Are you on crack? What Valve and Stardock are doing is still very uncommon. Fuck, do Stardock fanboys inhabit some alternate universe where up is down and night is day? [quote]*shrug* Consumers who purchased a software license from Ironclad haven't been damned at all. [/quote] Then I assume you wouldn't object if selling and purchasing all used goods was criminalized or otherwise prevented. Or is th

[quote]I go to a book store to buy a used book. I get home, start reading through it, only to my dismay I find that the last 10 pages of the book have been ripped out by the previous owner.[/quote] This is not an accurate analogy. The product has been damaged by someone, it is not that way [i]by design[/i]. [quote]This isn't true with StarDock. They are the good guys in the gaming industry.[/quote] Or at least that's the myth they've managed to create about themselv

[quote]I like Stardocks solution to all this.[/quote] I, too, enjoy taking it up the ass from an uncaring corporate entity that's constantly innovating new ways of fucking over consumers in order to maximize profits. [quote]I enjoy playing games online and I love developers continuing to improve their games after release. In order for this thing to happen someone needs to pay the bills, they need to encourage people to buy new copies of their games.[/quote] If they can't

[quote]lol then pay them, insted of think you can get a free ride, i'm did not pay full price so you can update[/quote] Is it really so impossibly difficult to understand that free, unrestricted patches are the industry norm? Also, I like how buying a used copy of a game is suddenly some fucking heinous, immoral and borderline criminal act, as opposed to a completely normal action that's commonplace and routine with everything else. How did I a get "free ride" by the way? I paid money fo

[quote]What I don't get is why this lot are complaining about Stardock and co making profit. OF COURSE THEY WANT TO MAKE PROFIT! If they didn't they would go bust! But that doesn't mean they aren't making games for our enjoyment as well.[/quote] Who is claiming that they shouldn't be allowed to make a profit? [quote]Also what I don't quite grasp is what would make you happy either? What do you want them to do??? Provide you support for free when t

[quote]I smell a communist[/quote] I have not said or implied anything that could be interpreted as favoring or supporting communism. [quote]The original purchaser agreed to the terms of the very short and concise EULA, which state that the serial is non-transferrable. Having done that, they knowingly resold the box and disc, while they still have the ability to download and play the game. If anyone's to blame here, it's them, considering that person literally still has

[quote who="Cataclysm2000" reply="18" id="1982382"]I smell a communist[/quote] I have not said or implied anything that could be interpreted as favoring or supporting communism. [quote who="kryo" reply="19" id="1982393"]The original purchaser agreed to the terms of the very short and concise EULA, which state that the serial is non-transferrable. Having done that, they knowingly resold the box and disc, while they still have the ability to download and play the game. If anyone

[quote who="Annatar11" reply="14" id="1982080"]No, you bought the physical disc that contained the game data.[/quote] So the license key in the manual was just for decoration? SoaSE's retail copies don't actually even ship with real keys, you have to buy them separately? Ok, that's pretty cool I guess. [quote who="Simmyaz" reply="16" id="1982118"]If the disc is not required to play the game I could theoretically install and update the game for myself, and then "sell

[quote who="Simmyaz" reply="10" id="1982017"]Nothing is preventing you from playing the game. You can install sins on over 9000 computers if you wanted to. You just can't get the patches which is rightly so. [/quote] Why would I play a game that I can't update and can't play online? And why is it "rightly so" that I can't update a game that I've legally purchased? [quote who="Zubaz" reply="11" id="1982030"]Profit does not equal greed. Selling product is what

[quote who="Dirk_123" reply="4" id="1981656"]Think a bit before you post. I believe stardock has a very light protection (CD key only) while others screw you over with tons of protectionprograms. Also you can perfectly install and update the game without! CD key (just not to the maximum) and even play it. The only thing it prevents is online play. It's how I got this game, loaned it from a friend and isntalled it. Enjoyed it so much I decided to buy it from the stor

The small game store I bought this from (well actually, I traded two games in exchange for SoaSE and another game) has a policy of not taking used copies of games that use DRM methods like SoaSE does. They obviously won't take anything by Valve since they, like everyone else, know what the deal is with Steam. But how the fuck are they supposed to be aware of every single DRM-crippled game in existence? The packaging of SoaSE has no description of its DRM system, no warning that a used copy is

Is it really true that when you buy SoaSE and link your CD-key to an account, they stay together forever and thus screw over anyone unfortunate enough to buy a used copy containing that CD-key?