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Halo MOD?

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Ok so I am just throwing this idea out there because I am a Halo fanatic and I think that this game could easily incorporate the Halo universe into it. I am not a very good designer but I can provide support and more ideas. There are already two races that could easily be changed into the Humans and the Covenant( TEC and Advent). All we would have to do would be to change ships some and add  gauss guns to most TEC Cap ships. I know this might take a long time but if it means that we will finally have a Halo space combat game then it will be well worth it.
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Reply #1152 from Sins Forums Top
the missles would be for the ships and the regular fighter weapond would be for the fighters we would just elimante bombers tho it says in the books that the pelicans where out fitted wiht rockets under the wings archer pods some times
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What do you mean by "regular fighter weapon"? Since in fighter to fighter dogfight, the only weapon used are missiles o.O
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Reply #1153 from Sins Forums Top
well if everyone is offering to beta test, hell ill do it.
Reply #1154 from Sins Forums Top
I'll beta test for sure :D 
Reply #1155 from Sins Forums Top
the missles would be for the ships and the regular fighter weapond would be for the fighters we would just elimante bombers tho it says in the books that the pelicans where out fitted wiht rockets under the wings archer pods some timesWhat do you mean by "regular fighter weapon"? Since in fighter to fighter dogfight, the only weapon used are missiles o.O
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long swords had two cannons
Reply #1156 from Sins Forums Top
im beta testing to.
Reply #1158 from Sins Forums Top
the missles would be for the ships and the regular fighter weapond would be for the fighters we would just elimante bombers tho it says in the books that the pelicans where out fitted wiht rockets under the wings archer pods some timesWhat do you mean by "regular fighter weapon"? Since in fighter to fighter dogfight, the only weapon used are missiles o.Olong swords had two cannons
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By cannons you mean like, machine guns? Cuz if so, machine guns and the like aren't used for fighter v fighter. Fighters are too fast even today for them, let alone 500 years in the future, where Longswords have to cover hundreds of kilometers in a minute. They'd use uber fast missiles to hit their targets.
Reply #1159 from Sins Forums Top
its funny how like in sins the fighters have auto cannons and no missiles and they are made like to i dont know take out FIGHTERS
Reply #1160 from Sins Forums Top
the missles would be for the ships and the regular fighter weapond would be for the fighters we would just elimante bombers tho it says in the books that the pelicans where out fitted wiht rockets under the wings archer pods some timesWhat do you mean by "regular fighter weapon"? Since in fighter to fighter dogfight, the only weapon used are missiles o.Olong swords had two cannonsBy cannons you mean like, machine guns? Cuz if so, machine guns and the like aren't used for fighter v fighter. Fighters are too fast even today for them, let alone 500 years in the future, where Longswords have to cover hundreds of kilometers in a minute. They'd use uber fast missiles to hit their targets.
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they have 110mm rotary cannons and 120mm ventral guns mainly used for dog fighting
Reply #1161 from Sins Forums Top
plasma torps complete, using the effects from bailknight's graphic mod which looks more like what plasma should be. torps have full tracking ability and are a non ability weapon that fires forward. due to techical dificulty the torps fire in 2's and im having trouble changing that. im still working on shields but im having difficulty getting my autocast perameters to work. anyone more skilled at text editing than i am out there please help me.
Reply #1162 from Sins Forums Top
i just saw the video. nice work, i am totally beta testing :)
Reply #1164 from Sins Forums Top
the missles would be for the ships and the regular fighter weapond would be for the fighters we would just elimante bombers tho it says in the books that the pelicans where out fitted wiht rockets under the wings archer pods some timesWhat do you mean by "regular fighter weapon"? Since in fighter to fighter dogfight, the only weapon used are missiles o.Olong swords had two cannonsBy cannons you mean like, machine guns? Cuz if so, machine guns and the like aren't used for fighter v fighter. Fighters are too fast even today for them, let alone 500 years in the future, where Longswords have to cover hundreds of kilometers in a minute. They'd use uber fast missiles to hit their targets.they have 110mm rotary cannons and 120mm ventral guns mainly used for dog fighting
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Where does it say they ever used the guns for dogfighting? It doesn't make sense that they regressed in war tactics, back to using WW2 style dogfights when modern day has PROVEN the tracking ability of missiles, and pure range, are vastly superior. And in space where engagements can take place over thousands of kilometers would only further the need for missiles, even in dogfights. So I want proof of this nonsense, and if by some chance you have some, I'd like it to be changed. Cuz Halo does a pretty good job of being realistic, and the fact they've regressed to WW2 tactics just kills everything.


Edit: Ahah! My faith in Halo has not been shattered, it said the Longsword did have machine guns, but it ALSO carried fighter-fighter missiles. The same as real life combat craft. So odds are they actually use the missiles in combat, but carry the cannons as a secondary measure, for when they run out of missiles. EXACTLY like todays fighters. Now, unless you can somehow code in a limit of how many missiles a Longsword can carry, I say they just carry two types of missiles. Their anti-fighter one, and then their high-yield anti-ship one. So they can take out Seraphs and larger ships.
Reply #1166 from Sins Forums Top
colt the logic you using is the same as generals in Vietnam "we've got missiles' we don't need guns" following this decision large numbers of US planes were shot down due to lack of guns in dogfights and for information here are two sources for you

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/C709_Longsword-class_Interceptor

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page 38 of Halo: First Strike
Reply #1167 from Sins Forums Top
another model you might use

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Reply #1168 from Sins Forums Top
"he Longsword's main weapons are 110mm rotary cannons, as well as 120mm ventral guns, for dogfighting in space. This versatile fighter can be armed with an assortment of secondary weapons including ASGM-10 Missiles, bombs, Moray Space Mines, Scorpion missiles, and even a single Shiva Nuclear Warhead. The Longsword is usually deployed against Seraph fighters in space combat and Covenant artillery in planetary combat. It also may escort Pelicans as they head for the surface of a planet. It can also be remote piloted, carrying a single Shiva Nuclear Warhead, destroying the enemy ship and itself as well when the opportunity arises[7]."


http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/C709_Longsword-class_Interceptor
Reply #1169 from Sins Forums Top
I'm not sure about Vietnam, but I know it's a fact that in modern combat, machine guns are all but worthless. Lets face it, one-hit kill your enemy from a mile away, or get up to within 300 meters of him so you can shoot at him with your machine gun. Also, I read about the Longsword, and it caried fighter-fighter missiles for dogfighting. It's load-out is the same as modern day strike craft. Anti-fighter missiles aswell as a machine gun for secondary use.

ASGM-10 Missiles Click that in the wiki and see how it says it's a missile designed to take down enemy Seraphs.
Reply #1171 from Sins Forums Top
well im just throw this out there if I was in a desperate battle to defend earth and its many inhabitants and i could easily knock out a banshee or a seraph with my guns and save the o'so precious missile so that i may inflict damage on a covenant ship while its shields are down i think i would use my guns in a dog fight wouldnt you?
Reply #1172 from Sins Forums Top
well im just throw this out there if I was in a desperate battle to defend earth and its many inhabitants and i could easily knock out a banshee or a seraph with my guns and save the o'so precious missile so that i may inflict damage on a covenant ship while its shields are down i think i would use my guns in a dog fight wouldnt you?
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yes but wasting an o'so precious missile on a banshee would be a great opportunity for guns
Reply #1173 from Sins Forums Top
I'd use the missile. Since as all well and dandy as it is to defend Earth, I'd rather defend myself first. And instead of letting that Seraph get within fireing distance (They don't have missiles.) I'd fire a missile and kill it long before it even gets a shot off. Not to mention I'd know the ASGM was made for small, single targets, NOT big ships. And instead I'd use the anti-ship missiles I was packing to damage the big ships. As a Longsword had machine guns, anti-fighter missiles, and anti-ship missiles.

As I said, if you can code it in so each Longsword can have say, 10 missiles, then when they're out they start shooting their pellet guns, then awsome. But since I don't think that's possible it makes FAR more sense to have them use the appropriate weapon, their anti-fighter missile.

I mean, ask any sort of real life pilot if he'd save his anti fighter missile (The missile that's ONLY usefull against fighters) and instead risk his life just to use his machine gun, I wonder what he'd say :/
Reply #1174 from Sins Forums Top
Colt556
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The A10 is also an air to ground bomber, NOT a bomber-interceptor such as the Longsword. Aslo in space, the bullet would never stop, or deviate. It'd go straight, making it utterly useless at long distances (Which is what the majority of battles will be in space). A missile however, is guide, and will almost never lose track of it's target. So that pesky enemy fighter can't evade it like it can easily evade the machine gun. And while the cannon may be big, and powerfull. It's still as useless in it's time period as a jet fighters machine gun is today.


well then why doesn't the UNSC use a super missile launcher instead of the Super MAC
Reply #1175 from Sins Forums Top
I'm not sure about Vietnam, but I know it's a fact that in modern combat, machine guns are all but worthless. Lets face it, one-hit kill your enemy from a mile away, or get up to within 300 meters of him so you can shoot at him with your machine gun. Also, I read about the Longsword, and it caried fighter-fighter missiles for dogfighting. It's load-out is the same as modern day strike craft. Anti-fighter missiles aswell as a machine gun for secondary use.ASGM-10 Missiles Click that in the wiki and see how it says it's a missile designed to take down enemy Seraphs.
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well im just throw this out there if I was in a desperate battle to defend earth and its many inhabitants and i could easily knock out a banshee or a seraph with my guns and save the o'so precious missile so that i may inflict damage on a covenant ship while its shields are down i think i would use my guns in a dog fight wouldnt you?
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 :NOTSURE: I think Colt556 actually has a point there cptkeyes. Machine gun dogfights are all but extinct in MODERN warfare let alone 500 years in the future. I also never seen them use machine guns either :P